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Michelin Pilot Super Sports or Pirelli P Zeros

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  1. angerosa

    angerosa Karting

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    What's stickier? Is there a big negative one has over the other?
     
  2. Dave rocks

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    Michelin Pilot Super Sports are great. I had P Zeros on my vette and would never buy them again...
     
  3. INTMD8

    INTMD8 F1 Veteran
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    Another vote for PSS.
     
  4. sdematt

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    I have PSS on my 911 and love them. I'm on my second set and can't complain.
     
  5. MicroFirm

    MicroFirm Karting

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    I bought my car w/ new Hankook Adventus tires and they lasted 1 summer.
    The PSS last at least twice as long, I'm on my 2nd second now.
    I believe they have different rubber compounds along the tread patch so the inner tread lasts a lot longer with all the negative camber.
     
  6. Wisky

    Wisky Formula Junior

    Nov 13, 2006
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    Michelin PSS are one of the best all around summer tire on the market right now IMHO. I replaced the Perelli on my F430 before they were worn out because I was so unhappy with them.
     
  7. itsablurr

    itsablurr Formula 3

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    PSS is a fantastic tire, provided they're in stock, or don't go a months long backorder. Michelin does not do a particularly good job of managing production and inventories.
     
  8. darkkaangel

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    Michelin PSS all the way
     
  9. RWP137

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    +1
     
  10. joe1973

    joe1973 Formula Junior

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    Be careful. MPSS is a great tire for performance, but for everyday use I'm not in favor. I've tracked 911s with this tire and can tell you in the wet they're downright dangerous. What is the use of your car and decide best, safest option for yourself and others sharing the road with you.
     
  11. emac

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    I have PSS on my 355 and m3. Good tire. Rides nice and quiet, balance well, no issues. I have never tried the Pirelli.
     
  12. natman316

    natman316 Formula Junior

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    PSS all the way. Pirellis are crap.
     
  13. ///Mike

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    Nitto NT05 and pocket the difference. :)
     
  14. Rosey

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    Michelin is the way to go.
     
  15. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    Surprised to hear this from you. No doubt the PSS is the better tire considering the PZERO was developed when the car came out and is OEM vs the PSS which is more recent technology.

    But the PZERO is the original tire and I know how you like the cars to be factory original.
     
  16. Dave rocks

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    Hey Neil,

    My 98 came with Michelin. Not PSS but pilot sport IIRC (I have the window sticker)

    I ran P zeroes on my 95 vette, they stick great but wore like crap and very expensive. The PSS's are wearing like iron
     
  17. ducrob

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    Michelin....I'm amazed at the performance compared to the Bridgestones that were previously on the car. First thing I noticed was the sound of them picking up particles off the road surface....sticky.
     
  18. angerosa

    angerosa Karting

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    Truth be told guys I kind of thought as much but I wanted an excuse to go for the more expensive Italian tires.
     
  19. kenneyd

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    definitely MPSS
     
  20. phrogs

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    I happy with my Michelins but It comes down to.what you plan to do.with the car.

    I havent had my car out in the rain with these to see how they are wet. Conditions temp weather all come into play.
     
  21. angerosa

    angerosa Karting

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    It's unlikely I'll drive my car in the rain. It's not as fun when the targa top is on. Just street and highway driving. Track unlikely as well.
     
  22. taz355

    taz355 F1 Veteran
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    Good tires but like all things sticky, good for maybe 6 to 8 thousand miles. Others have got better mileage with other tires and said they are pretty close.

    That being said I use MPSS
     
  23. ShineKen

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    When I bought my Scud, it came with MPSS' and I was surprised at how good they are for a street tire. Highly recommended. However, I went with Advan AD08R (not an R compound), to match the "race look" of my BBS challenge wheels and I think they are a notch better, but not by a whole lot. It probably looks too track oriented for stock 355 wheels, so MPSS' are definitely the one to go with. If challenge wheels, I would get AD08R's no question.
     
  24. ShineKen

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    I also forgot to mention AD08R's are symmetrical so you can switch left to right for increased use.
     
  25. schnazzy

    schnazzy Formula Junior

    Mar 31, 2008
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    On my 500rwhp/rwtq BMW M4, I have MPSS2 tires. I can't imagine a better tire. I have 20" 305's and the do better than others but be careful with super high perf tires when they are cold and it's possibly wet. I have been on an onramp in 45 degree temp and wet and misty, and the car with all the god modes on, went sideways quick. I now use these for spring/summer only and have a 295 wide Conti all season for winter which do better in the cold.

    So, as long as it's 60+ and the tires are 70+ degrees and it isn't wet or you aren't trying to do 1g turns where no tire would save you, you should be fine.

    Note, I have taken an onramp that has a fairly steep bank for a US highway (and it's slightly up hill) at about 120% of the posted limit, on warmed up MPSS2 tires and they feel like race slicks, yeah the car was moving out a bit but in a controlled way.
     

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