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  1. dougburhyte

    dougburhyte Karting

    Dec 28, 2005
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    Hi folks,

    I have a curious problem: My 1999 355, which I acquired in 2005, has always passed the CA emission tests with flying colors. It seems, though, that new testing machines introduced a couple of years back no longer "communicate" with the car's OBD II system. In 2006 I did have the dealer warranty service performed that added a ground connection to the OBD system and I've never had a problem until now. The emissions data all look fine and do pass; but when it comes to the OBD check, the machines report back that the system is "Unsupported". This has happened at two separate smog shops. Anyone else in California run into this issue? Thanks for your help!

    Doug
     
  2. Dave rocks

    Dave rocks F1 World Champ
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    I'm in NY and my last 2 inspections the OBDII was connected and kicked right out with an immediate "pass". So, I assume mine is also no longer supported so NYS (if you can believe it), passes the car.
     
  3. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    Jun 14, 2011
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    No I have not but did here of this on some machines, you may need to go to a referee or find a shop that knows what to do.



    :)
     
  4. GTUnit

    GTUnit Karting

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    That has to be super irritating. Check they type of SMOG machine they used and if there are other models in the field. Find a shop with a different model sniffer if possible.
    Call the Ferrari dealer service department in CA. Im sure they have heard about it if it has happened to anyone else.
     
  5. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

    Sep 20, 2013
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    We have Cali regs here in MA. I heard that after 15 years it's safety only so the OBD check is not required. But we don't have sniffer. If it passes sniffer it should pass, no?
     
  6. cmt6891

    cmt6891 Formula 3

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    No Sniff test for ODB cars in Ca. If 2 smog shops could not pass because of an error message that is a prime case for smog referee. Call them up and explain. They will have a tech from the closest location call you back and qualify you so that an appointment can be set up to have the referee do the test.
     
  7. eastwest7

    eastwest7 Karting

    Oct 1, 2014
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    Try to find a smog shop that has a battery powered ob2 reader. Your car may have a blown fuse that also cuts power to your OBD plug. That happens to my Silverado all the time with the cigarette lighter fuse being bad and the obd plug not working.
     
  8. dougburhyte

    dougburhyte Karting

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    Thanks, guys, for all the good input. I'm trying a different smog shop today and will hopefully find out it was unique to the shop that couldn't read the data.
     
  9. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I wonder if cali test only shops can help. In 2008 was the latest version of obd2. starting in the 96 MY obd2 has changed to the latest 2008 version. So it might be a smog shop or state wide issue with software incompatibility. We have that issue with people tracking streetcars with AIMsolo DL data recorders. The AIM only works on OBD2 after 2008 but sometimes will read an earlier version in a few cars prior. That's my WAG
     
  10. INRange

    INRange F1 World Champ
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    I would think the easiest thing to do is plug in an OBDII reader and see if the plug and system are working properly. Depending on the reader, it can tell you everything that they should be able to see at the Emissions station. If the plug and the data is there.....it just makes for a stronger case that something isn't right with the software they are using.

    I would start there before I took it to another emissions tester.
     
  11. vracer

    vracer Formula 3

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    Any good Ferrari mech should have a reader that can tell you exactly what is happening. Go there first before going to another test site.
     
  12. dougburhyte

    dougburhyte Karting

    Dec 28, 2005
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    Hi All,

    Just wanted to let everyone know that I think the OBD issue has been located. Apparently one or more of the wires leading into the OBD connector have become loose or damaged. The second smog station I visited discovered this inadvertently. They found that by jiggling and holding the wires in place they could successfully connect to their computer but, unfortunately, could not keep the connection in place long enough to transmit all the data. So, it was another failure, but at least a cause was ascertained. I'll be having my service shop make the necessary repairs and run all the tests for codes, etc.within a couple of weeks so we can then take another shot at full smog test. Thanks again for all the good ideas; they were most helpful, and appreciated.

    Doug
     

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