Car is 07 dec 3 panels Bushing upgraded by hills engineering alloy type Clutch realized Bearing upgraded-from hills engineering. New clutch master cylinder. Found it hard to shift down in high rev. Especially 4 to3 downshift.. Heel and toe was performed. Feel like you need to really push hard to engage to 3rd gear.. Used to be a lot smother. Anyone has experienced same problems..? Thanks very much for the input.
Check cable alignment and adjustment. Less likely is lubrication of the linkage ball joints but it's worth checking that too.
I used to have problems shifting 1st (no - not because the transmission was cold). Then my mechanic adjusted it only to then have problems shifting into 6th. Clearly there was an issue with having some play in the shifting plane. Tried replacing the gearbox oil, then a new clutch, hoping to solve the problem but no dice. Then I came across this article: https://aldousvoice.com/2012/09/29/ferrari-360-f430-gear-lever-bushing/ Eureka! Having had any issues at all since then. Car shifts beautifully - and we all know how pleasurable that gated lever can be! It was the cheapest solution and technically easiest - I was too lazy and just had my mechanic do it but looking at the website with detailed pics, it seems a pretty straight forward DIY.
Master cylinders can hold small amounts of air despite seeming to bleed OK. A lot of manufactuers recommend a 'bench bleed' procedure prior to fitting to mitigate the risk. I would give the system another bleed using a pressure bleeder and also operate the pedal a few times during the process. Put a litre of fluid through it to be absolutely sure. I think it would be a waste of effort and potential cash to attempt to diagnose further without being absolutely sure the system is bled fully.
I have had practically everything replaced on my 07 430 MT spider re the clutch. Complete New clutch, slave cylinder, replaced the bushing even though it had been replaced before. Heat exchanger was replaced. It was leaking . The transm oil has been changed several times to clear the leaking radiator fluid. Yet I still have problems. Cold, it shift so easily into any gear. After the car gets hot or after spirited driving and shifting, the transmission gets stiff and it doesnt want to change gears very well. I'm open to any suggestions. I have the Hill engineering bushing.
I am going to take your advice Mark and try another mechanic. I like my guy but think he is stumped with this problem.
Apologies - I missed this. Assuming the cables are aligned correctly it sounds like air in the system, the symptoms of which are always exacerbated by heat. Have a good look at the black fluid distribution block on the RH side of the trans. They are prone to cracking due to over tightening of the clutch bleed nipple. You may see weeping fluid but beleive it or not they can and do let air into the system without the fluid escaping. Hill sell an upgraded version. Also check if your VIN was in the recall list for the clutch master cylinder, and see if it was done if applicable.
Thank you so much. My mechanic is stumped and it's frustrating for me. It shifts beautifully when cold then stiffens up when warm, worse when hot.
Gated, at least the F430s, are priced $40-50 k more than F1. You could even make a gain. Just not let the buyer test drive for more than 5 minutes. 😉 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Seems like this is a never-ending saga. I've had the same issue as blackbolt with a 360 Spider 6MT since 2015. Many things have been done to the car as per the suggestions of several Ferrari mechanics and not a single thing has even lessened the issue. It sounds like blackbolt has replaced just about everything and that's also been to no avail. It'd be hard as hell to get that 6MT premium at this point.
Replace gearbox oil, if it has not been done yet. And maybe the gearbox cables need some adjustments. On our manual F430 we had some troubles to shift from 1st to 2nd. We did these 2 operations and since then, shifts are perfect
Nick I remember when I had the same problems as you. I also checked everything, changed bushings, greased cables etc. Then I took it to my mechanic who knows these cars (FChat member) and he said my clutch and release bearings needed changing. Now my gear changes are butter smooth.
FChat Member "tbakowsky" in Oakville. PM me if you want and I will send you his full info. He's well known among the TO owners as an aficionado
My shifting gets chunkier when it gets hot, going in for a cable adjustment, hopefully that's it, one response here helped narrow it down a bit, I think, when they asked if it still does it when it's hot but the engine is turned off, which it does, with the clutch depressed or not, so thinking it through, couldn't be synchros, or a throw out bearing, master cylinder, clutch or release bearing, because nothing is in action other than the physical movement of the shifter, cables and linkage, right?
That's exactly how my issue started. Mine was very stiff with the engine on or off. It progressively got (much) worse from there. No fix yet. :|
Alright. I took mine in for it's annual service and hopefully to correct this problem. I will keep you posted.
