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Guys Help Gearbox issue ?

Discussion in '360/430' started by RichardCH, Jun 21, 2017.

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  1. RichardCH

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    #1 RichardCH, Jun 21, 2017
    So driving home in my 430 Spider (18,000 miles) and a small whining noise emits from the engine, shortly afterwards F1 Gearbox warning light comes on, car reverts to auto shift mode only and then shortly afterwards car deselects to neutral and engine dies and wont restart. So F1 pump is first thought or could this already be the clutch ???
     
  2. Turbotuner20v

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    #2 Turbotuner20v, Jun 21, 2017
    any fluid on the ground?

    what is the level in the f1 reservoir?

    does the pump run when you open your door?

    This will probably require investigation by a mechanic w/ Ferrari scan tools
     
  3. ar4me

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    #3 ar4me, Jun 21, 2017
    Maybe whining noise it throw out bearing failing... though, pure guess...
     
  4. mello

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    #4 mello, Jun 21, 2017
    My hazardous guess is that the F1 pump is constantly running due to the relay contacts welded shut.
     
  5. gsworld2014

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    #5 gsworld2014, Jun 21, 2017
    Get it towed or you will destroy the clutch.

    Just happened to me.
     
  6. RichardCH

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    #6 RichardCH, Jun 22, 2017
    Yes thks its on a flatbed truck, think I have read that there are are lots of cheaper genuine alternatives for the F1 pump that getting it from Ferrari dealer ?
     
  7. billy.gif

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    #7 billy.gif, Jun 22, 2017
    Here's what I found:

     
  8. mwstewart

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    #8 mwstewart, Jun 22, 2017
    The cheaper pump is not suitable for the F430. It would work, but not for long. The later upgraded type should be used,
     
  9. Flea7

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    #9 Flea7, Jun 22, 2017
    If it's the F1 pump and motor, fchat member Juri make an upgraded units with heatsink. It requires an upgraded relay and fuse. See below.....

    I have one installed on my 430.



    430F1 pump upgrade (0.38 ml/revolution): Ferrari F1 Pump UPGRADE 0.38 ml/rev Pump Head & Heat Sink: 214267 248083 248087 | eBay
    430F1 pump upgrade (0.26 ml/revolution): Ferrari F1 Pump UPGRADE 0.26 ml/rev Pump Head & Heat Sink: 214267 248083 248087 | eBay
    430F1 pump upgrade (0.24 ml/revolution): F1 Pump Ferrari w Heat Sink (UPGRADE) part 214267, 248083, 248087 | eBay
    430F1 70Amp relay: RELAY 12V 70A 4-prong, F1 PUMP Ferrari Maserati 233100 upgrade (aftermarket) | eBay
    360F1 pump upgrade (0.24 ml/revolution): F1 Pump Ferrari 360 430 part #213264 #247223 Lamborghini E-Gear 86901137 | eBay
    360F1 50Amp relay: RELAY 12V 50A 4-prongs (small), F1 PUMP OEM Ferrari Maserati # 233100 (upgrade) | eBay
     
  10. RichardCH

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    #10 RichardCH, Jun 22, 2017
    thks Guys the Ferrari garage confirms it is the F1 pump, I spent GBP 1,100 (circa $1,400) at Eurospares buying the OEM replacement with the upgraded version
     
  11. FlyingHaggisRacing

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    #11 FlyingHaggisRacing, Jun 23, 2017
    Sorry to be a pain.

    But the pump burning out, is normally a symptom of a deeper problem.
    Something made the pump run for too long and too often.

    If you don't find out now, you will be buying another pump very soon (ask me how I know that one - on second thoughts don't ask me, the memory of it still hurts).
     
  12. Mickster

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    #12 Mickster, Jun 23, 2017
    Relay related?
     
  13. LorenzoR

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    #13 LorenzoR, Jun 23, 2017
    That would be my first pick
     
  14. djempire

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    #14 djempire, Jun 23, 2017
    +1 Change/upgrade relay along with pump
     
  15. RichardCH

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    #15 RichardCH, Jun 23, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2017
    yes am changing relay too, which costs peanuts, the parts I ordered are 248083 Kit F1, 228646 Relay,170093 Fuse
     

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