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Old 03-03-2012, 11:35 PM
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360 Spider vs. 430 Spider

Well, I think maybe I should spend the little extra to move from my 360 Spider to a 430 Spider after all. I think the 430 may even give my R8 a run for its money. Thanks to the gunmetal grey 430 spider driver this morning whoever you are who gave me a proper performance lesson.
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:46 PM
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Lol. They are faster for sure... but I personally like the look of the 360 better. (The 430 Scud looks pretty awesome though). Good luck if you move forward with the 430.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:09 AM
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:35 AM
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If you can't right now, that's fine, but I'd keep the 360 a while longer then jump into a 458 later down the track. That's just me though. All the best with any decision you make.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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+1 on that one as the 458 will be worth the wait. The 430 is not a quantum leap. It is an advance in technology but only marginal.

It's like an iphone 4 to the 4s
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:33 AM
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I've got a 360 and if I sold it, it would be for a 458. 430 is a better car than the 360 but too similar in many respects to justify the change.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:06 PM
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+1 on that one as the 458 will be worth the wait. The 430 is not a quantum leap. It is an advance in technology but only marginal.

It's like an iphone 4 to the 4s
I can't get into the 458, for the price, looks, and then there is the fact that is is more car than I can handle. The 430 is only a little more than my 360, not 3 times as much OTD.

If I go for a new Ferrari from my 360, it will be a Cali. Totally different animal.
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Doesn't seem worth it to me, especially with beastly California sales tax, the "upgrade" will be pretty expensive for what it is. Of course, if you have cash burning a hole in your pocket, I can certainly understand the car addiction, so best of luck regardless!
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:21 PM
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I think if the cost make sense, I would.
it will cost double or tripple to get to 458 or 458 spider.
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I don't know, but after owning a 360F1 and a F430 six speed manual, the F430 is a big step up in performance, and in acceleration the est. 83bhp will leave a 360 in the dust. I also liked the looks of the F430 so much more, but then again there's nothing wrong at all with keeping the 360, it's a great car.

The delta for the 458 will always remain much higher, rather get a Scuderia. If I was in the market for a new well optioned 458 then I'll be looking for a F40 instead.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:32 PM
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I've got a 360 and if I sold it, it would be for a 458. 430 is a better car than the 360 but too similar in many respects to justify the change.
I can't deny that, even with all the extra performance in the F430 and thats a lot... I can't justify telling someone to ignore a 360 and to jump on a F430 or any other faster car, unless your talents behind the wheel can match the car. In reality a 360 is enough for 99% of the owners or those to be (even a 308 at the limit), but we get used to what we own and feel the itch to experience something new, just like in a marriage.
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I can't deny that, even with all the extra performance in the F430 and thats a lot... I can't justify telling someone to ignore a 360 and to jump on a F430 or any other faster car, unless your talents behind the wheel can match the car. In reality a 360 is enough for 99% of the owners or those to be (even a 308 at the limit), but we get used to what we own and feel the itch to experience something new, just like in a marriage.
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I am probably looking at $40k all in for to move to an '06 430 Spider. For a chain instead of a belt and something a little faster and different, it does give me pause. And what I saw yesterday suggests the performance delta is more than I thought before (though I often think it is just my inferior driving skills). The only thing holding me back is that I think the 360 is a prettier car.
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:29 AM
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I am probably looking at $40k all in for to move to an '06 430 Spider. For a chain instead of a belt and something a little faster and different, it does give me pause. And what I saw yesterday suggests the performance delta is more than I thought before (though I often think it is just my inferior driving skills). The only thing holding me back is that I think the 360 is a prettier car.
Funny, I didn't think that when the 430 was released but now I do...360 has much better lines

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Old 03-05-2012, 06:32 AM
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I am probably looking at $40k all in for to move to an '06 430 Spider. For a chain instead of a belt and something a little faster and different, it does give me pause. And what I saw yesterday suggests the performance delta is more than I thought before (though I often think it is just my inferior driving skills). The only thing holding me back is that I think the 360 is a prettier car.
When I bought a 328gts it always bothered me that I like the 308 visually better.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:17 AM
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I am probably looking at $40k all in for to move to an '06 430 Spider. For a chain instead of a belt and something a little faster and different, it does give me pause. And what I saw yesterday suggests the performance delta is more than I thought before (though I often think it is just my inferior driving skills). The only thing holding me back is that I think the 360 is a prettier car.
Depends on if you're gonna look at a car or Drive it.
As mentioned, the technology and performance is More than marginal on the 430. 20% more HP and upgraded suspension is a Huge leap forward in performance. The Manettino alone allows you to control these settings on the car for your liking.
If you like looking at your car for aesthetics, keep the 360 (and that's debatable)
If you are a driver and like Driving your car, it's the 430 hands down (not debatable).
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I am probably looking at $40k all in for to move to an '06 430 Spider. For a chain instead of a belt and something a little faster and different, it does give me pause. And what I saw yesterday suggests the performance delta is more than I thought before (though I often think it is just my inferior driving skills). The only thing holding me back is that I think the 360 is a prettier car.
So your plus is a little more power and no need for a $3K occasional belt service (that I do every 5 years on my 360 per my mechanics advice, so break even would be 67 years on that basis or 40 with the factory 3- year interval) with the downside of more money and a car not as pretty as the 360. Well, I guess it comes down to how often you race on the roads and how much it bothers you that a 430 is a little faster? I can count how many times I've raced someone on the road in the past 2 1/2 years of owning my 360 (it works out to exactly zero), and how many times I wished for just a bit more power (also works out to zero). But everyone wants something different and has different budgets as well... I'm not saying you shouldn't move up to a 430, but I don't know that there is that much difference that will satisfy you if it's a little different experience you're after.

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If I go for a new Ferrari from my 360, it will be a Cali. Totally different animal.
This may seem nuts, but instead up spending money on that trade, I would keep the 360 and try to get a 4.7 maserati convertible to go with the 360- the maserati is a beautiful car and sounds awesome...the Cali just doesn't do it for me as a Ferrari (would have been a great maserati). What sealed the deal for me was when I studied the two cars at a recent local cars & coffee- the maserati was the better looking car and impressed me more than the cali (performance numbers aside as the ferrari is of course faster and better handling). Not to turn this into a Cali bashing discussion, but I think the 360/430 is quite a different experience than a Cali for the feel, handling, looks- a low mid engined go kart vs. more or less a GT type layout of the Cali.

Of course, with all the cars we are talking about are incredible cars...
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:38 AM
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Depends on if you're gonna look at a car or Drive it.
As mentioned, the technology and performance is More than marginal on the 430. 20% more HP and upgraded suspension is a Huge leap forward in performance. The Manettino alone allows you to control these settings on the car for your liking.
If you like looking at your car for aesthetics, keep the 360 (and that's debatable)
If you are a driver and like Driving your car, it's the 430 hands down (not debatable).
True that it's not debatable...but it IS debatable if it's worth the money.

I'm going through the same thing. And to be honest I think I'd rather wait for the 16M to come down a bit more in price, when we start seeing a bit more 458 spiders on the road.
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IMO the 430 is a better car in every way except price, and I really can't see how the 360 has better lines, not saying it's not pretty from certain angles but every Ferrari is stunning from the right angle.

From the sides maybe the 360 is better looking due to the large scopes on the 430 not blending in into the body properly, but everywhere else I think the 430 is better looking.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:05 AM
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IMO the 430 is a better car in every way except price, and I really can't see how the 360 has better lines, not saying it's not pretty from certain angles but every Ferrari is stunning from the right angle.

From the sides maybe the 360 is better looking due to the large scopes on the 430 not blending in into the body properly, but everywhere else I think the 430 is better looking.
These two cars are like the best of wines...
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:12 AM
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Depends on if you're gonna look at a car or Drive it.
As mentioned, the technology and performance is More than marginal on the 430. 20% more HP and upgraded suspension is a Huge leap forward in performance. The Manettino alone allows you to control these settings on the car for your liking.
If you like looking at your car for aesthetics, keep the 360 (and that's debatable)
If you are a driver and like Driving your car, it's the 430 hands down (not debatable).
Very good points me thinks. Besides, I already have an aston for aesthetics. It ain't the fastest car on the road, but it is sure the prettiest.

Still, the 360 is pretty great and prettier than the 430 and, yes a little slower, but if I want to take on a 430, I will just take out my R8.

Decisions decisions!
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