360 Failed CA smog, what else can be done?

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Scott

 

I have a similar issue with my p-car the CEL would come up after some driving cycles I know the issue is something that doesn't affect the car's performance only the damn test

If you had 3 now 4 get an OBD reader and check when you have the two flags you need and go for the test right there, I've managed that for the last few years ... in my case is take it before the CEL comes on and after the flags are good.

 

The 99 360 only has 1 cat and is very difficult to pass in Ca. Did you get the car hot first? Don't ever take the car in cold. It also helps of you have a shop that is familiar with the F cars.

 

Has campaign 148 been completed on the car?

It has to do with the ODB2 connection, factory issued campaign, mine was done in June 2006. Possible the sensors are working and the connection is bad?

I also have a 1999 360, although no emission testing here

Also my ECU's went back to FNA in november of 2008, re-flashed

Rick

 

My 360 is 99 and passed the smog no problem. Mine also shows 3 monitors out but the evap is on and off. I take mine to a local smog shop who knows Ferrari well - also knows the 99 360 3 mon issue.
Let me know if you want the info on the shop. They are in San Jose, Ca.

 

Verify that you have the ground jumper on your OBD II .

You will have to climb under the dash, but fairly easy to spot .

Not a very good I-Phne picture , but you can see the OBD II Connector from the top (Right bottom of the picture ), typically a looped wire ( black ) to create an additional ground for the scanner.
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Here's the update / campaign info - DIY if you like.......
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Mine was the same.....passed the sniff but won't pass the OBDII. My tech guys advised that when the batt died it cleared the data from the car....and it needed to be driven at a certain RPM range and distance to get info loaded back to the system. The CA crap we have to deal with thinks we are hiding something on the OBDII gets when it sees no data....My car is at the garage now getting oil and filter as well as a replacement Batt...

 

Mike the fact that you passed AZ obdII test and Cali tells you that 3 readiness states are not set. Means obdII communication is not the problem.

Has the exhaust been modified? Headers, precats, cats, all original? Have you had any codes set you have reset?

And for others reading this. Disconnecting the battery on a OBDII system will reset all readiness monitors.

Stop pulling the battery.... Every time you do you start over.
What is not set?

 

The ecus need to go to fna as you can spend weeks trying to do the drive cycles and it wont work as I did and then I took it to have it smoged and before it would pass it would show 3 indicators just like yours....

Scott

 

Cali smog has the sniff test and the obd2 readiness test. There are smog systems like the evap emissions that can't be measured in the sniff test. So cali has these 5 or 7 readiness tests. To pass this part of smog you need 3/5 or 5/7 positive ready tests. It is known that many cars have "drive cycle" problems that cause these tests to fail. It is also possible that you really have a fault like the air pump motor or gascap is failed causing a test to not ready set. There is a secret obd2 subset called $6 aka mode6. $6 is a propietary set of obd2 codes that link sensors to specific areas of a system's problem. Just like the well known P-codes P0141 is a generic code for O2 sensor heater there are these manufacturer codes they hide from us. It is possible that an SD2 might pull up such codes. It cannot be confirmed or denied that Ferrari uses this system but all the other OEM's do.

In cali you have an alternative. Cali is 90% worried about modifications and passing the sniff test. You can call the BAR bureau of automotive repair and set up an appointment with a smog referree. He will test your car and look for aftermarket and removed devices. He has the authority to pass your car and issue a smog cert even if you fail the ready tests. They know the ready test system is flawed and that the public are the unaware victims of this problem. You are not the only one to have this issue. That is one reason the smog ref exists.

 

this is common for 99s. I had the same exact problem, where no amount of driving would register the other monitors.
The person who was able to fix it for me was an independent guru in the SF Bay Area (not the dealer !). This mechanic was able to trick the electronics. The referral to this shop (blanking on the name now) came from sanfranciscosportscars.com, if you want to call them and ask to speak to "the person up north who can make a 99 pass smog".

Don't give up. The car is worth it. One lap at a race track will more than make up for the hassles.

 

OK so what did the ref tell you to do?

 

Mike it's a pity you are having these problems but let's face it, you're dealing with a 14 year old car in the modern world and regulations in California.

It's unlikely a 14 year old Nissan would bother with fixing this stuff and the owner would just dump it to a reseller who would send it to another state or just send it to the recycler.

Hopefully, the someone will come to your rescue soon but I think these kinds of things happen with cars other than Ferrari's quite often too.

I feel your pain. One reason I sold my Dino was this constant cat and mouse game of dealing with emissions in California. I know I'm not the only one. Trying to treat it no different than a Toyota is ridiculous. For the 1000 miles a year I put on the car, I'm sure I contributed about 0.0000001% of 1 trillionth of the smog problems in LA. For this they gave me months of hassle, worry, and expense.

I just got tired of dealing with it every year. They wore me down.

I hope you sort this out soon and get it on the road as you wanted. Don't let them take away your dream. It's a hurdle you will overcome and find out the sense of enjoyment on your car that you wanted when you bought it.

And so, I end my words of encouragement for the day!

 

I am having the same problem....Car has been in the shop for a few days trying to sort it....they advise it will be fine just be patient....