430 Scuderia Pricing/Supply

I am interested in buying a Scud and have been watching the scud market for the last month or 2 and there are a fair number of them available across the country .. I am waiting to see what happens when the 458 version (whatever they call it ) comes out ... I am hoping the price softens ... I also see several 16ms on the market .. However I have no reference from last year . would be curious has the price softened or increased over the last year or 2...I am mainly interested in the Scuds vs the 16M .
LarryH

 

Zinger, your observation is correct. Prices have definitely flattened. Lower supply than last year. Perhaps improving economy , people holding on to cars longer or 458 is not suitable upgrade for most scud owners. I just sold mine , I haven't found a single car yet that can replace the scud. I am waiting to see how the 458 scud will be priced.

 

THis is something I have noticed every car I have seen has had 4 to 5 owners which is a lot for a 4 or 5 year old car.. I see asking prices around 175 to 190 depending on yr and mileage. I personally would like to find a 1 or 2 owner car with maybe 5 to 8 k miles prefer a 2009.. with alcanatara interior. prefer one with some red in the interior ... just sayin....
LarryH

 

I don't think the Scuds are going to drop much over the next 2 years or so. The replacement scud is going to be priced in the $330-350k range. They won't start appearing until next spring for the early ones , around the summer of 2014 for most. I find, the outgoing model usually firms up ever more when the replacement car is announced and for about a year or two afterward. I think you'll be pretty safe with a scud for a while. I don't believe they will be cheaper than the CS as some people think but rather sit just above them in cost.

 

Not saying it's ideal, but don't be afraid of a car with lots of owners if you have records and a good PPI. My 612 had SEVEN owners prior to me. A scud with five would be about on track for that kind of turnover. What you look for then is solid routine maintenance and anticipate up to $10k in extra lovin' to get it well sorted. The difference between my car now and a car with one owner amounts to nil, but it cost me $9k to get her that way. The next owner will be the ninth I'd love to believe I'm going to keep her more than a year or two, but I don't.

 

Ryan did u see that white Scud is back at FOW, the same one we talked about... looks like the bumper section that was broken is fixed, but saw another crack develop elsewhere.

 

I know the 458 is a great car, so please don't beat me up...but I just simply love driving the Scud. I bought mine last year and bought it rather well. The dealer has offered to buy it back, full price...but. like Charleton Heston said, "...from my cold dead hands!" For my tastes and likes I have not found anything I would rather drive. Just me, others are certainly entitled to their own opinions.

I am the second owner of my '09 Scud, which I bought when it was still under the original factory warranty. I think this was somewhat rare from what I have seen. The original owner did not buy the car as a spec/investment...he bought it because it was what he wanted to drive. He put 9K miles on it in 18 months and then moved on. Those of you who are familiar with my car, its long list of rare options and the original owner know that this car was cared for and maintained at a level which would make a person with O.C.D. appear to be uncaring by comparison. I couldn't resist.

I have watched Scud sales over the last 18 months and believe that they are selling faster now than they were a year ago. Asking prices seem to be steady with dealers being a little less likely to negotiate price as much now.

In general, Scuds do appear to have a few more owners than the average F-Car, but CarFax can also be wrong. Depending on how title is taken by dealerships in the various states, CarFax may reflect 4 owners, two actual owners and two dealer trades/transfers. They also make mistakes: A Z06 I bought new showed an accident two months before the factory build date (the selling dealer cleared it up with CarFax after much effort). My Porsche, which I bought with 200 miles on it, showed 4 owners, all of which were dealer trades. Look CarFax reports over carefully to be sure what they are really telling you.

Larry, good luck in you search. I hope you find the exact car you want.

 

I guess I am one of the fortunate few to have been able to land a true 1-owner '09 Scuderia. I am the 2nd-owner of my Scuderia, and have kept a constant eye on Scuderia prices (even after buying mine 2 years ago, I know it's a very bad habit), particularly for 09s and from what I've seen, the prices haven't changed much at all from last year.

I do notice that for-sale-Scuderias are not sitting as long as they did last year...many have consistently sold in under 3 weeks and/or are never re-listed.

I bought mine w only 1,100 miles on it...I'm at 8,600 miles now, and it is still my favoritest car. I sold my MP4 in Taipei recently, and will be putting the funds towards a 458 Versione Speciale or a Mercedes SLS Black if 458 VS disappoints.

It's a great era for supercars we're in! There's an abundant sea of amazing options to choose from!

 

Exactly...

BTW...are you going to post any new vids of you terrorizing the bay area in your Scud? Great viewing!

 

Black and gold? If so, I believe they sold that car about a year ago. Saw it back in the service bay last week with a deep, deep scrape lower right front bumper.

 

Sorry to hear that you sold it!

Me too! I got a PRISTINE one owner scud (me being the 2nd owner), '08 corsa red, US carbon, BATA from a texas oil tycoon. Currently 5900 miles on the clock. Took me 6 months to find it. I think there will always be some deals on some not so perfect cars around the $150-170k price point w/ stone chips, poor history, & relatively higher miles, but the well documented, pristine condition, low mileage cars have held their value over the last 2 years. F430GT pricing model still applies IMO given that the cars on the market now have more miles and wear and tear.

If you've had the chance to drive a scud, you know that it's the best bargain for a supercar out there. The experience is unmatchable for the money.

Take your time and don't settle.

 

I saw the one at FOW and it is a very nice car, but I wanted to have leather seats. I've been following the market for a while as well still looking for a black/black with yellow calipers. Looks like people who have the scuds are holding on to them because it seems like there are fewer of them available for sale.

For those in the same boat as me, good luck and I think the biggest thing I've learned is to be patient

 

Are you guys referring to this bianco avus Scud? Never seen one with Daytona seats.


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That's mine! Bought it May of last year. Hit the curb few months ago. Need to repaint the bumper at one point.

Owner replaced the seats for better comfort. He also added the aftermarket audio stuff. Btw, FoW appraised my Scud somewhere in the 150s I do have a lot of miles due to the fact that car is too damn addicting to drive! Drove 458 but the price difference and level of excitement it offers seems not worth it so ended up keeping the Scud. Put 10k miles last year.

 

Folks driving these cars only that amount of miles in 4-5 years is almost criminal! I have put over 5k miles in just 7 months on my Scud and am only the second owner. If/when I sell it, it will likely have a grip of miles (heck at 23/24k it already does in most peoples eyes...but it's still the best machine I have ever driven). Wonder what an 08 with 50k miles on it will go for in a couple years???

 

I was on the hunt for F430 for a few months and one day Jonathan at FoW asked me if I wanted to take the Scud out for a test drive. I didn't look at an F430 after that day. I couldn't get over the sound, drive, visceral shifts, etc etc etc. I wound up buying the 09 Nero Daytona from Jonathan at FoW and couldn't be happier with it and their service! Only issue I had so far was the battery tender that FoW replaced for free. It's the best car I've owned and I drive it every chance I get!

 

Race ya to 50k miles!!! Winner get's a bottle of the world's best chocolate milk?

 

Damn I wish I had room for it, garage or wallet. I'd make you an offer. I've loved black and gold all my life. Stood and stared at it quite a while last year.

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This is why I simply never drove a Scud or 458 while owning a 430. Ignorance is Bliss.
As a matter of fact, I staved off trading for a 16M for about a year - now I look back and say I should have done this a long time ago. The right 16M came along, and I traded my 430 without even test driving it.
The Scud/16M is eons ahead of a 430.

 

Car is pretty solid. I bought a power normal warranty but didn't get to use it last year. Very very exciting to drive. It is like Challenge Stradale on steroid and gearbox with 60ms shifts make the car even more special and exciting than CS and 458. I always wanted to own a Ferrari with bare minimal interior (just like F40s) and Scud is the closest thing within my budget so I bought it. Very happy with the purchase. Car is a BEAST with Michelin Pilot Super Sports and good alignment.