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Trofeo R or Sport Cup 2 on 430 Scuderia?

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  1. johan6504

    johan6504 Formula 3

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    Has anyone tried the new Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2?
    I am on regular trofeo today but will need to buy a new set pretty soon. Should I go with Pirelli Trofeo R och the new Michelin PSC2?
     
  2. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

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    How do these two tires compare to the stock Pirelli p zero roso?
     
  3. johan6504

    johan6504 Formula 3

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    Pirelli pzero rosso is street /sport tire, these tires are more track focused
     
  4. Maxi_Z

    Maxi_Z Rookie

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    Hi Johan

    I did some trackdays with the pzero trofeo r in std size and they are doing well but I would like to fit larger tyres and will maybe try some psc2.
     
  5. jack

    jack Formula Junior

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    I ordered mines (MPSC2) for my scud, but I've to wait some weeks before my Pirelli are worn out. My dealer said there are very limited quantity in Europe...
     
  6. johan6504

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    Just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. 245/35-19 and 285/35-19 will be interesting too see how they compare to the Trofeo and Trofeo R
     
  7. cm2

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    Am i missing something? I only see a PSC2 in a 275/25/19...
     
  8. johan6504

    johan6504 Formula 3

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    Where are you looking?
     
  9. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    tire rack as well as michelin's site...
     
  10. johan6504

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  11. cm2

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    For me, the other problem is most 235's say a 8" wide front... scud has that, but not the other 360/430s... although I'm running a 235 RE-11 with no poor results. Yeah, all I see in the sizes are the regular PSC.
     
  12. johan6504

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    This site only show tires in stock...
     
  13. johan6504

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    #13 johan6504, Mar 13, 2014
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    These are the dimensions we will see in Europe this year. Not sure if they are all released yet.

    225/40/18
    235/40/18
    245/40/18
    235/40/19
    235/35/19
    245/35/19
    255/35/19
    285/35/19
    285/30/18
    295/30/18
    265/30/19
    295/30/19
    305/30/19
    325/30/19
    245/35/20
    295/30/20
    345/30/20
    315/25/20
    325/30/20
    275/35/19
    265/35/20
    325/30/21

    http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilot-Sport-Cup-2-Launched.htm
     
  14. Darth_Homer

    Darth_Homer Formula Junior

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    Hi Guys, I just wanna ask if I still need to put spacers if I get 305/30/19 (stock wheels) for the rear on my Scuderia? Planning to get Trofeo R or Corsa System..
     
  15. johan6504

    johan6504 Formula 3

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    Now I know...
    The Pirelli Trofeo/Trofeo R is on an average 1,5-2 sec faster on a 1 minute track than the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 on my 430 Scuderia, that is a big difference.

    I am sure Michelin is better in the wet but for track days I will move back to Pirelli Trofeo. Michelin also has a much higher tendency to overheat, didn't like the characteristics of the Cup 2 at all...
     
  16. MaranelloDave

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    Good info, Johan. Thanks for posting. So the Trofeo's are semi-slick tires?
     
  17. johan6504

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    I am not exactly sure what you mean by semi slick. But over here they are called R-tires. Track day rubber that you are allowed to drive on the street.
     
  18. Darth_Homer

    Darth_Homer Formula Junior

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    Trofeo Rs are perfect! Put them on my scud now and I like them a lot... the grip was really superb :)
     
  19. MaranelloDave

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    Basically tires suitable for the track and road that have few, very shallow treads. Semi-slicks are halfway between a road tire and slick tires. From pics I've seen on Google, it looks like that's what Trofeos are -- not something you'd want to drive on in a rainstorm!
     
  20. ScudLife

    ScudLife Karting

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    How do you guys feel about the Trofeo R's on the street. Located in Socal so car never see's any rain but Im worried they may be a slight overkill?
    I have Perrilli Corsas on now and the grip is terrible looking for a huge improvement over these.
     
  21. arizonaitalian

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    Do a search here...Scud tires have been covered many times. YOu will hear MPSS, RE-11, Trofeo and on....all better than Corsa's. I can say firsthand that MPSS and RE-11 are, others' can talk to Trofeo and on.
     
  22. Darth_Homer

    Darth_Homer Formula Junior

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    Do you use your scud often? Because me I use it maybe 2x a month max... so I went with Trofeo Rs and also for better grip of course. If you want better grip then go with Trofeos, best tires for the scud IMHO... :)
     
  23. MaranelloDave

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    It's interesting to me that people think the Corsa's have poor grip. I've had them on two cars so far and think they're extremely grippy. I haven't tried the others though, so maybe this is a matter of "it's all relative."
     
  24. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian F1 World Champ
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    Likely. And the corsa's are very slippery once they heat cycle.


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  25. LEAVINU

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    I run the Michelin Pilot Super Sports for both track and street use and they are AWESOME for a true street tire. The PSS is a much better handling tire, laterally, than the PS2 by the way.

    In this thread, some are comparing R-compound tires to true street tires(non-R) tires which is really apples to oranges. I can get 20k miles out of my PSS's. I highly doubt that the same could be said for an R-compound.
     

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