This is a follow up from issue I shared from other thread in regards to F1 issue in general. After I replaced all tail/brake light bulbs as recommend/chat/preventive maintenance on how this circuit can relate to F1 warning light flashing follow by series of beeps. Today, after work, I took the car out thinking to go get my son at a swimming class. Less then three miles, F1 warning light come on solid with one beep when I put it in Neutral comming to a stop light. I was not able to shift into any gear at all, signal from TCU and from Relay comes on normal when pressure falls below 600psi and stop at 800psi as usual, but cannot shift in gear at all. I towed the car home, went to dinner with my family, came back and F1 light still solid on. The car is in the garage now.... DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, as to DIY. I will sit on it for a couple of days, to cool down my frustration, give you guys follow up when I decide what to do. Meanwhile, please cheer me up.... thanks
Factory trained on 360 I have no idea how anyone thinks operation of brake light bulbs relates to operation of F1????? Diagnosis or service of F1 without SD2 is an exercise in futility.
He must be getting confused with the brake pedal switch. I helped someone over the phone just last night with the same problem - it turned out the brake light fuse had blown. I don't know how changing the bulbs would help though... OP: Are you the person who has tapped into their F1 hydraulic circuit? As Brian says, you need to see what the TCU is reporting in order to diagnose the issue properly. What you can do at home is check the engine cover switch in the latch, the brake pedal switch and the drivers door switch. All of these can cause problems.
Yep I hear you brother. I have also had issues but not as bad as yours. The thing is, too me, these cars on not easy to work on and I don't know where to start. It's very frustrating. I am not thick, but working on a 360, and in particular F1 is not something I can do. You just need someone that has the right gear to sort this out. Me, I'm taking a 2011 997.2 C2S out tomorrow for a test drive. Probably the wrong place to post this but I also have had it. Also living 3 hours away from a dealer, and not being a doctor, lawyer or high earner in general counts.
It's just designed to be diagnosed with an SD2.. Not your fault. Try brake switch, lid switch, etc. as above. You just need to know what the computer thinks is wrong. Could be a simple stupid sensor. You could also convert it to a stick..
please cheer me up.... Look at the bright side you own a Ferrari and a garage to put it in. Get some help, get it sorted out and enjoy the ride! Steve L
Sorry for the stupid question but can't you just take it to the dealer for review? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Man! you guys not helping here...LOL. I still think you guys are loveable F-chat brothers, though. Aldous, Yes I am the one tapped into the F1 Hydraulic circuit. Yes, I understand what your are saying about the brake light circuit, and yes, I may be confuse. As to how that tail/brake light bulb relate to F1 issue. I am not a Ferrari tech and just learning as I go along because I am a "gearhead". During the time I changed out the bulb, with two of the bulbs not plug in my f1 light stay solid on??? Did I interpret this as a coeincedent??? Yes, and I understand about the brake switch relate to F1 system. That was a lot of "Yes" huh...lol...Here's a no, NO I don't know what the heck is going on with my car! lol In any case, Kevin. No more "Chebby" man...Had "chebby" for too long. If I do american again, I would go back to do 69 Camaro (the old American mussle)...hehehehe. Honestly, I am not frustrate about my car, but will admit it is trouble some...However, I am keeping my sense of humor and try not to get on the bad side of me. I do enjoy ALOT chatting with you guys and hear what you guys have to say. Some are just pure funny and some are just "ouch!", but that's why I feel you guys are my F-chat brothers. Well, today is Sunday, I am schedule to open the shop today and wont have a day off till next Friday. So, I will just let the car sit for a while til I have time to take it in to a dealership or a locate Ferrari specialist. Curt, Steve, Aldous, keep it comming guys. I know this is not "bells and whistles" topic which chatter love to chat, but I know you guys have a lot of knowledge and can share. Especially Aldous, I love your website, great write!... check back with you guys soon.
Brake lights do. It will not affect the functioning of the gearbox per se but will send an error. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/336918-f1-reverse-warning-light.html
Brake lights do. It will not affect the functioning of the gearbox per se but will send an error. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/336918-f1-reverse-warning-light.html
Actually that's a good question.. when you get in the car and turn on the key to accessory position.. do the brake lights both work when you press the pedal?
Not sure if this is the same issue.... I had an issue with my 2002 Ferrari 360 F1 spider.... the issue was a extremely easy fix on my car. My car would go into gear and then as soon as I came to a stop the car would go into N (beep). My issue was corrected by replacing the little contact that recognizes that the engine bay is closed. There is so much heat in that area, that the sensor goes bad. I hope that this helps.... and I do have the OEM - TCU from my 360 because I replaced my (just because I wanted a Stradale TCU, easy mod and one of my favorites)
I like your attitude, hang in there. What are your tech choices where you live? BTW your profile doesn't say where you call home.
Kevin, thanks. Yeah, funny that you mention that, because I tried to update my profile and having a hard time manuvuer thru this site to update profile. I am locate in U.S, San Jose, California. This is a good know shop, been there for a while, called Roselli's. (I have not intention of advertising any business and or naming anyone, just want to make that clear). I used to drop off parts of this shop way way back when I was a part time parts driver. The shop is still there. Have good reputation. Or I can take it down the Dublin Ferrar where Brian is at. Not sure if he still there. There is two more dealership close by, but don't know anyone there. Yeah man, I thought about it. These kind of toy car suppose to be fun, not trouble. But trouble is trouble, either from car or people. I try my very best to stay positive, I try not to let it get under my skin too far, if one day that's the case, then I will not own one...LOL
There are a lot of people here at Fchat who are very well meaning and very misinformed and provide a lot of information that will make it very difficult to get to the bottom of your problem. You are in an area where there are people who can help and I strongly suggest doing that. You mentioned me. Don't bother but thanks for the consideration. I am not taking new customers. As far as the car being fun. It can be but you need to seek out reliable sources of information to resolve the problem and you are not doing that. It is an exotic car with some systems that are unusual enough that they are not widely understood even by many of the people who are specialists in Ferrari repair, including those that were factory trained. Besides myself in my opinion there is really one one guy in the Bay Area who I can recommend to take your car to and I don't believe I have ever seen his name on Fchat. I will be happy to direct you to him if you call.
Hi Brian. Oh, so you at Dublin too. I did not was thinking of another Brian from F-life. He has an Avator with the guy on the motorcycle hanging on to the handle bar as if he were flying. The Brian I mentioned he is at San Ramon to be specific, that's also close to Dublin. I don't suppose you are the same individual??? Yeah no worry and I understand you perspect and where you are comming from. I work at the dealer ship myself and I totally understand what you are saying. But needless to say, even with some misguidance info which sometime can be obvious. I still respect people in there opinion and what they have to say base on their knowledge and understanding. I don't hold them accountable for what they say, I would hold me accountable for listen and not making good judgment. On top of all that, like I said, I LOVE CHATTING AND SHARING WITH YOU GUYS. Without you guys, I would by now trully frustrates with the car. LOL
I cleaned my hatch contacts a while back and I noticed something that I didn't understand. The switch on the hatch is a plunger type yet the contact on the rail has a bright shiny surface and has a single wire attached to it. I mean a simple plunger switch to make sure the hatch is closed yes -- but why a wired contact on the rail. It seems as if it's belt and bracers -- the plunger is one and the plunger making contact with the other part on the rail also completing a circuit. I know that Ferrari does some strange things to obtain a result that could be done more simply but how does the hatch switch "system" function? Alan
Keep the car's battery charged up when not in use - this is a must! This alone would solve a lot of people's problematic experiences with the F1 - not all of course, but a lot.
Alan, it is positive voltage for the third brake light. The negative (ground) of the third brake light is mounted to the hatch.
Sorry to hear your woes. But look at the bright side. This is an opportunity to bond with your car. Once your son gets his driver license, the bond will even be stronger. I envy you because I have a daughter. She insist that I drop her off two blocks from school whenever she is in the Ferrari because she is already getting enough attentions from the boys!
Correct. As I found out the hard way, if this plunger contact gets shorted to ground and the brake lights come on, the brake light fuse will blow, and the car (if it's an F1) will not get into gear. No warning lights on the dash, no beeps, just won't select gears. The person Aldous helped out last night was me! (thanks Aldous)
Hahahahah.....gotta love that, gotta love that. Priceless moment right there Steve. That will be a story of your and her life time and or may be down further downstream to her kids generation.
