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  1. zvdxb

    zvdxb Karting

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    Hi. I've been recently contemplating acquiring a scud or CS but need to know from current or previous owners the following :



    1/ general opinion of the car
    2/ if they can be driven daily
    3/ if they have some long term value
    4/ downside

    Rgds
     
  2. Jason Crandall

    Jason Crandall F1 Veteran

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    1,000,000 threads on this topic already. Have a look around.
     
  3. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

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  4. roma1280

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  5. zvdxb

    zvdxb Karting

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    Will check it out. Thks.
     
  6. rzundel

    rzundel Formula Junior

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    I wouldn't consider either a daily driver. I think you will find the CS to be a more exclusive car with fewer produced and has already shown to be a better value. Good luck.
     
  7. zvdxb

    zvdxb Karting

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    Understood.

    What are the going prices for the CS and scud ?
     
  8. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You're not quite ready... for either. You have a little more DD to do first.
    Where did you first get the idea about these cars?
    What do you drive now?
     
  9. zvdxb

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    It's not that I'm not ready yet but I'm just trying to use this forum to get a little more knowledge as I'm new to the forum. FYI I drive a 599 gto and an 89 Testarossa . I've also previously owned a 458 . Am looking for something ( mid engine 8 cyl ) that fits between the 458 and the all mighty gto so thought of the scud and CS . Hope all is clear now. :))
     
  10. since-15

    since-15 Formula 3

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    Why would you go backwards (using the term loosely of course) from a 458 to a CS or Scud? I am made to understand that the 458 is more powerful, better handling, and a really comfortable daily driver compared to a CS or Scud. As far as value, the CS seems to hold its value quite well.
     
  11. Knightrider

    Knightrider Formula Junior

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    I went through this last year, bought a Scud. Really a personal preference if you ask me. Both are awesome cars.

    To me, the Scud has a more modern look, higher performance, and less maintenance, and proportional in value to the CS. I just don't ever see the CS being worth more than the Scud (again, my opinion).

    Gook luck with your search. Your decision is not a bad one to have to make!
     
  12. Jason Crandall

    Jason Crandall F1 Veteran

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    They already are.
     
  13. roma1280

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    yep. could have bought a scud for a lot less than i paid for my CS (admittedly I paid top dollar for a nice car)
    ps UK CS's trading well above $300,000
     
  14. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

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    Had the CS recently & sold it.

    Not the best build quality & as it ages, the carbon door panels will rattle & create a lot of noises, I put those furniture felt lining between contact points to solve this. They were glued with bonding gums that have harden & starting to crack by now. Otherwise, the car IS a very nice driver's car free from all the luxuries like radio-delete etc. The suspension & primitive F1 also judders around so not a great daily car & makes me want to puke after a heavy meal but once unleashed on the right roads, where there's little concern for speeding then you'll enjoy the wail of V8 & the lightness of the car which is pretty unique. Oh yes, the header also cracked but quickly welded off & you can of course upgrade it to after-market.

    Looks wise, few people in the public can tell the difference of it from the regular "cheap" 360.

    Scud would be a better all rounder.

    360CS value has shot up crazily being probably a thousand left by now after so many keep getting written off every year.

    Buy the CS for collection/value. Scud might catch up later or perhaps go for 16M since there's no spider in your F garage plus there's only 499 made.
     
  15. Jason Crandall

    Jason Crandall F1 Veteran

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    Not only does mine not have this issue but I've never heard of this issue.

    I'm amazed how well my CS drives for being 10 years old. Feels like a new car. No creaks or rattles.
     
  16. roma1280

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    Same here, my CS looks and feels like a new car. And when you get the revs up - that sound!!

    There is a great looking scud offered from another F chatter

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/459426-2008-430-scuderia-pristine.html
     
  17. DM1

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    Buy a CS! You can thank me in a few years.
     
  18. Challenge64

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    No problems with my car either.
     
  19. Russell996

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    UK Scuds have recently risen again and are currently well in excess of CS prices.

    http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/430-scuderia/ferrari-f430-scuderia-2008-4-000-miles/2719845

    http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/430-scuderia/ferrari-f430-scuderia-2dr-capristo-exhaust-ffsh/2767469

    To the OP, both are great and you can't go wrong with either.
     
  20. roma1280

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  21. zvdxb

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    The 458 is a great and I kinda regret having sold it ( part trade versus gto ) car but not a limited production so want to have one that wasn't maser produced hence scud or CS .
     
  22. zvdxb

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    Hmm...16M perhaps considering less than 500 made. 250k for one with less than 5000 miles ?
     
  23. Quilty

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    I like both cars and had a hard time choosing as well, but I got a Scud because I could get a factory warranty which was nice for peace of mind. I have not, however, had to use the warranty because the car has had zero problems.

    I also prefer the transmission in the Scud.
     
  24. ttn27

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    Why not a Speciale, which is not mass produced, or even better yet is an SS (reportedly only 458 copies to be made) and the last NA V8, and definitely a compliment to that GTO.
     
  25. freshmeat

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    Wanna bet the Specialé production will be increased to meet demand like LaFerrari after Luca's departure?

    I guess it all depends on how you define "mass produced"...
     

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