360 F1 with Twin Turbo...good or bad

my thoughts? one of 3 plans.
Plan A: Sell the 360, get a GT-R. Vette sees tail light every.single.time.
plan B: Get a 997 911TT. Ditto.
disclaimer - I don't condone street racing.
Plan C: Keep the 360. Accept that he has a newer, faster, less expensive, more reliable car and still be happy about enjoying your car.

 

I told my friend with the GT-R. He is passing everyone because everyone is slowing down to admire my 360

 

wow, let's take a fragile motor to begin with and add forced induction.

Better answer would be to yank out the Ferrari engine and drop in a Ford crate motor, then knock yourself out with the add-ons...

 

Perfect answer.

The only thing to add is to remind him at the end of the day you have a Ferrari in the garage and he has a Chevy.

 

+1. Don't waste time with the twin turbo. Your car is based on technology that is 15+ years old. You've got to tune it, which can be a PITA. It can be done.. but what are you doing to the cars character?

If keeping up with him is that important, get a 997TT or GT-R.

You also didn't mention how well he drives the car. If he's like most I've encountered down here, they can mash the pedal to the floor in the straights but can't corner worth a hill of beans. FYI one guy I know how has lots of time on the track who knows how to drive got the fastest time at Roebling. It's VERY competitive. But at C+C he's one out of 5 or 6 cars. Keep your 360 for what it is IMHO.

 

like Brian said...he has a Chevy, you have a Ferrari. You are enjoying life to the fullest,he is enjoying life at the fastest and everything is a blur to him. Skip the turbo's.

 

^^^Gospel^^^

I like choice B or C

 

sell your 360, buy a gallardo, send it to underground racing for a twin turbo set up... vette will see your taillights..

 

I like choice C myself.

 

If you want to go fast, the 360 is not the car for you. Toss 4k at a Z06 and pretty much everything is in your rear view mirror.

There is no replacement for displacement.

Turboing your 360 is a waste of time and money. Hell a 2014 Benz amg station wagon will walk all over you. Somthing to thing about. Nothing like getting best by a wagon with child seats in the back..

 

Can you imagine? Almost 600hp and 600ftlbs of torque in a friggin station wagon???. 0-60 in 3.4 sec?? Unreal. Ferrari who?

 

Hahahahaha...

There you go.... Very well explained....

+100...

Alex

 

Please don't turbo your Ferrari, if you want a Ferrari that's faster than a new Corvette buy a 458, don't modify and potentially ruin a great sports car.

If speed is your thing why not take the 15-20K you'd put in the 360 and buy a C5 Z06 and supercharge it, that is a very fast combo and when your done you'd have two for one.

 

Get the new Z06

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a stock motor cannot take more than 7lbs, maybe 10-14 tops.

7 should be fine and fun.

 

+1 on that 5 to 7PSI will be stupid fun without killing the sound or pushing the motor to hard, turbo motors are better on the top end the valves are cushioned on closing, more toque will get you out the corner easy with more grip less spin. Down side is the extra torque you have will load the crank and drivetrain, the motor makes a lot more power per revolution at lower rpm. You will also short shift more as the high rpm is not needed. If you get the correct size turbo's and not so BS massive ball out things and sort the fuel and ignition mapping out you will have a great car that will dust any 430 with ease.

Don't aim for high BHP torque is king! keep the turbo's medium to small this will give you killer mid-range and almost no lag. I have been fitting turbo kits to engines that are much higher specs than most car engines, the principles are the same. The 360 motor is a copy of a Yamaha R1 design and 131bhp per ltr is not high performance for a bike engine. 180bhp per ltr is more like it. So if you add a little boost 20 to 25BHP per ltr you will have a safe engine and a boat load of power. I have always planned to do a turbo kit for my 360 and have had other distraction, one day I will do a kit as I’m not moving away from 360’s I’m adding to it.

I would use two Aerochargers here is a link to one of my turbo bikes, a few dyno runs also.

RaceComp Speed Triple - AerochargerAerocharger

 

I'm guessing that Ferrari engineers would strongly disagree with you, as do I.

There is a big difference in sport bike engine and Ferrari engine cost, and as far as the similarities, any engine with overhead cams and lighter rotating mass could be compared to a 360 V8.

This is a case of just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

 

Who said anything about cost?

What would Ferrari engineers strongly disagree on? The basic principles are the same regardless of engine size or cylinder configuration.

The five valves per cylinder is almost identical to the Yamaha head, it worked very well for them as it did for Ferrari. If the motor could rev higher it would make more power however the rotating mass limits the RPM verse reliability. The smaller the stroke the higher the RPM.

 

If cost is not a factor, OP can, instead of spending the $ on turbo, trade in for an F430. Cost about the same yet a more reliable way to get more acceleration. The amount, if any, saved with the turbo will be gone with the repair of the highly tuned and expensive engine that is place under forced induction.


If cost is really not a factor, OP can get Porsche 918 (since LaF and P1 are sold out). the 918 will decimate the Vette.

 

Maybe he just likes 360's and is looking for a some more power.

 

That it is a good idea to turbo charge an engine that was designed to be NA.

I'm not an NA snob, I've had a number of turbo charged cars and a few that I've put turbo kits on. Almost every single one I've had for any length of time that I've either raised the boost on and or gone from NA to forced induction has had some sort of premature failure due to the boost, all except a couple of 911 Turbos, they always seem to be up to the abuse.

Your right, nothing was mentioned about cost, however, I came to the conclusion this has something to do with the OP's motivation as he is curious about modifying the lowest cost "modern" Ferrari available. My point was simply that a failure in your Yamaha sport bike engine, either catastrophic or something as simple as a head gasket, is a lot easier to deal with logistically and on the wallet. If money were no object it would seem logical to start with a newer faster car.

 

Isn't the base product already on the hairy edge regarding heat management in the engine compartment? I can't imagine how adding two turbochargers along with all the other hardware, would help an already bad heat evacuation design.

You guys who are turbo charging these cars (or planning on it) - how do you deal with heat?