F430 Scuderia ceramic disk brakes for a normal F430

The only things you need to change are the front rotors and calipers and adapters. The 398 mm rotors and 6 piston calipers may be a really tight fit under the 19" wheels, but should barely fit. At least the 19" Challenge wheels will go over the brake set. The rear brakes are identical on the F430 and Scuderia. On the Scuderia, they did go to 8" front wheels to cut down on oversteer and to fit the larger brakes with more room to spare.

The F430 and Scuderia use the same master cylinder, so no problems there.

Big question would be why you want to do this? The 380 mm rotors and 6 piston calipers offer plenty of braking power and fill the wheels pretty well.

To be absolutely certain on the wheels, it would be smart to find someone with a Scud and see if your wheels will go over the Scud brakes.

 

Are you certain 19" OEM wheels will clear the width of scud front calipers? I'm pretty sure they would interfere with the rear of the wheel face.

 

I know that the scuderia style F430 wheels don't clear Scud Calipers as the arch on the spokes is a lessor angle. If you already have carbon brakes on your F430 its a meaningless upgrade unless you track the car frequently

 

I would recommend against it as discussed above because (a) I do not think they will fit without buying a new set of wheels and tires, and (b) I am certain you will not notice the performance difference. You could always buy a track set of rotors from the various sources that are steel and keep your CCBs for the road which should last a long, long time, but you would have to change them out every time you go to the track. At that point, you might as well start putting together a track-only car.

 

The Challenge style wheels will go over the 398 mm brakes because an owner here has done it and they fit, barely. I am not sure about the standard 5/10 spoke wheels. Do a fit check to make sure. None of the 398 mm rotors and big calipers have much clearance with 19" wheels, Scud or otherwise. They modified the wheels (new part number) on the HGTC 575M to fit over the 398 mm CCM brakes and there still is not much clearance to the caliper.

 

Terry - the master cylinder for steel brakes is different to that used for CCM brakes. You can use a steel master cylinder when fitted CCM brakes but the pedal will feel odd.

 

I have scud style wheels and challenge ceramics on my spider

They definitely fill the wheel
I'll get a pic

 

That is funny !! You mentionned here: " I do track the car a lot "

I visit the racetrack of Spa (Belgium F1 Grand Prix circuit) often and what do 430 Challenge and Scuderia throw off their cars ???

YES: the CCRM brakes !

They (allmost) went back to steel ... How abou that ?

 

If you track the car a lot you will go through the street car CCM brake pads and rotors pretty quickly. If you don't track the car at all, they will last a very very long time.

I agree with Mel above, if you are going to do more than 1-2 track days a year, better to replace the CCM with steel brakes.

 

Aldous- I looked that up and thought they were the same. My mistake. On the 575M, they are the same for both and my Mov'It CERs work fine with the OEM MC.

 

The op already has ceramics so will have an appropriate master cylinder and brake booster.

 

Indeed, but I couldn't pass up the once-in-a-lifetime chance to correct Terry!!