F430 Scuderia tire recommendations.

If you are looking to track the car I hear the Michilin Pilot Port Cup 2 and I also hear the Pirelli Trofeo R are also great.

 

I have tried both Pilot Port Cup 2 and Pirelli Trofeo/Trofeo R

Pilot Port Cup 2: Good (best I have tested) compromise between wet and dry, but not as fast as the Trofeo R on dry track.

I am on Pilot Port Cup 2 now but will go back to Pirelli Trofeo R. There is a big difference in dry grip. I am loosing 1-1,5 s on a technical 1 minute track...

 

I've had really good luck with MPSS's. I have the OEM wheels on my car and have 245's in the front and 295's for the rear. Plenty of grip for "spirited" street driving and also very good in the wet.

The MPSS's do not have the dry grip of the MPSC2's but are very good in all conditions and are also very durable. If you ever drive your car when the roads are not absolutely bone dry then these are a great option.

I have not had the car on track with them. I will be trying the new Hoosier R7's for tracking.

 

Good comment on tire width. You should consider running 245 front and 285 rear to reduce under-steer...

 

Does moving to 245 from 235 make that much of a difference in terms of understeer? The understeer is pretty significant on the track with the 235's. For what it's worth, I'm running the PZero Corsas but am considering PSC2's.

 

For me the move to 245 and was pretty significant. The reduced understeer gave me much more confidence in the car and in combination with more aggressive camber I did cut seconds on track.

 

Excellent. That's where I am, in terms of the lack of confidence on high-speed turns. The car tends to push wide.

Yes, camber is something I'm going to look into as well. What are your camber settings? I believe I drive my car on the road more than you do so, while I want to increase camber, I don't want to go too aggressive.

 

245/295 michelin pilot super sports are what I run. Best all around tire for street and track IMHO. Amazing in the wet. I had a chance to go max attack on them in torrential downpour last track day and was amazed.

 

Rake and corner balance are also things to consider and can make a big difference.

Push vs oversteer at 140+. Better know what it will do. Be careful as you make changes! ; )

I'll post my settings once I get it to the race shop for measurement. Not sure when that will happen given the weather.

Max factory neg camber will likely not cause substantial abnormal wear to tires on street. Usually more a reflection of front toe. Go zero. Slight toe in for rear. Especially given the amount of track time you see, your tires aren't going to last that long anyway. I would go with the best setup for RA.

 

Thanks singletrack. There's a local shop here in ATL that lots of track guys go to to set up their cars. I'll share these thoughts and see what they say.

As for tires, I don't like driving the scud in the rain, so wet grip is less of an issue for me. I'm thinking of leaving the rears at 285 in an effort to shift more grip to the front end.

 

are you referring to gran turismo east?

 

Yes

 

Any recent feedback? Sport 4 s, Sport Cup2 or oem Pzero Corsa. Not worried about wet conditions. Car will be driven in dry and warm conditions. Thx

 

Warm dry only, Sport Cup2 or Pirelli Trofeo R. They both have significantly more grip than MP4s.
The SC2s will last longer, keep grip through more heat cycles, and are a better tire all around. Trofeos have slightly higher ultimate grip but go away really quickly. I run SC2s on my daily driven 991 turbo on all but the coldest and wettest three months of the year (December-February), as it doesn’t snow in the SF Bay Area. I can feel the loss of grip at night when road temps dip below 50F.


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Thanks.

 

Any more recommendations?

 

Michelin Cup 2 100%

 

If you find Sport Cup 2s in Scud sizes, please let me know where. I’ve been looking for a while.


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Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 in 285/35ZR19 have been on backorder for about 14 months at TireRack...and probably everywhere else.
I am patiently waiting. I have the front and rears ordered, but requested shipping complete.

If everyone puts an order in, maybe that will induce Michelin to fulfill the orders?

 

I'm trying my second set of Cup 2's, a larger set-- 245/35/19 and 345/30/19 on the stock wheels. (that I bought on Fchat)

I've always worried about clearance up front when I used to track the car so I stuck with the 235 always. I wished I had tried the 245 up front because it seems like lots of clearance everywhere.

( the dune buggy looks of the rear tires aren't to my 458 friend's taste though)

 

305 or 345? My car had PZero Corsas in 305/30/19 on the rear when I bought it...I put it back to stock. But the 285s are aging out and need replacement.

 

A post revived from 10 years ago? Should that be allowed

 

I have 345 on rear but they look like an F1 tire….

Ive had all the sizes on the rear Scud rim… R7 325 nicest one IMO. 295– 315’s okay. A Dunlop 325 wouldn’t go on the rim…

 

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