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Need Help - Ferrari 360 belt service

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  1. F430 2907

    F430 2907 Rookie

    May 18, 2014
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    What is the cost for a belt change? Ferrari dealership quoting 3800, special winter price?

    Is it safe to go to a non ferrari dealer (authorized to work on Ferrari's) and has 15 years of experience

    Do you change belts every 2 years or is this not necessary? I will average 2K per year.

    Thank you for any help you can provide
     
  2. margarita

    margarita Formula 3

    Mar 20, 2011
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    Where are you located
     
  3. goachild2000

    goachild2000 Karting
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    Yes a indy who has experience can do the job. expect to pay 2k
     
  4. margarita

    margarita Formula 3

    Mar 20, 2011
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    I paid 1500
     
  5. margarita

    margarita Formula 3

    Mar 20, 2011
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    At fiorano motor that was 2 years ago a asume now is like 2000 i think
     
  6. Deiger

    Deiger Formula Junior

    Jul 4, 2011
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    Would be best to get a full list on what they are including for that price. For example, belts, tensioners, water pump, fluids, etc.

    As far as time, I am sticking with the 3 year recommendation in the manual.

    Good luck!

    Deiger
     
  7. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

    Apr 26, 2014
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    I am doing every 5 years at least that's the plan.
     
  8. mr_bock

    mr_bock Formula 3

    Oct 27, 2006
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    Prices may vary on location... Where are you located? There is a great indy shop in Gaithersburg, MD and another near Orlando, FL.

    I am looking at 5 yr/30 k miles. Will most likely do the job myself when due.

    Good Luck!!!!
     
  9. F430 2907

    F430 2907 Rookie

    May 18, 2014
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    Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Located in Chicago suburbs....
     
  10. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    On the 360, items which can dramatically affect the cost of the belt service are:

    1) Are the tensioners (not the bearings) in good shape? Does the LH bracket need to be updated?

    2) Are cam seals going to be done at the same time?

    3) What is the state of the oil/water cooler? Will all fluids be flushed during the service?
     
  11. jpk

    jpk Formula Junior

    Second what Ricambi said. A 'belt service' can vary wildly depending on what they are actually doing. A service might include new tensioners and cam seals while the belt is off, or it might just be a slapping a new belt on. The service might include all fluid changes, or it might just be slapping a new belt on.

    Either way, I would recommend that they actually are going to check the timing and degree the cams and not just take the belt off and put a new one on.

    Also, changing the belt every 3-5 years is the norm, not every 2.
     
  12. English Rebel

    English Rebel Formula 3

    Aug 13, 2013
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    What is the LH bracket update?
    Alan

    Don't forget that the other belts will be replaced at the same time. I asked my service advisor about changing the tensioners and his replay was that it wasn't necessary. I'm not sure I agree with that. Mine is due sometime this year (based on a 3 year interval) but one of my cam seals is weeping so will probably have all four done.
    Alan
     
  13. BrettC

    BrettC Formula 3

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    Ferrari recommend's 3 years...other shops 5...my belts at 2.5 yrs were discovered to have one belt DANGEROUSLY loose for some reason. Shop felt that something was done wrong by Ferrari Dealer at last belt change. Lucky it was caught....I would recommend at least having the belts checked at 2-3 yrs and annually after until changed. Better than 25 grand to replace the valve system if breakage occurs...


     
  14. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Something fishy here. Do you have a 360 or F430, since your profile is blank? No belts except auxiliary belts on an F430.

    If that $3800 includes an annual fluid and filter service, sounds about right for a 360, especially since it includes changing the aux belts.
     
  15. CCRider66

    CCRider66 Formula Junior
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    He's just preparing for when he owns a 430 with his screen name. :cool:
     
  16. Ingenere

    Ingenere F1 Veteran
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    I have been servicing my own cars from the 308, 348, TR, F40 and CS and the whole 3 year thing is just a way for Ferrari to scare owners and drum up service work.

    I've done them at 3, 4, and 5 years and the belts have always been perfect. I replace everything anyway, but most of the time it feels like busy work.
     
  17. Roadking80134

    Roadking80134 Formula Junior

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    In addition to a time factor, what is the mileage at which belt is recommended? I tend to drive my 360 a bit. I've put 10k in a year, and that's with it being out of service for 2.5 months.
    Thanks!
     
  18. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #18 tazandjan, Jan 28, 2015
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    Rick- Ferrari recommendation is 3 years or 30,000 miles, whichever comes first, for all the cambelt V8s. Many V8 owners use 5 years, but 3 is the official recommendation. It is 5 for the V12s with the latest Kevlar belts.
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  19. CCRider66

    CCRider66 Formula Junior
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    Do they make Kevlar belts for the 360?
     
  20. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    It isn't the Kevlar that makes a difference on the 360. Very high RMP taxes components and things break (rarely the belts themselves). With a zero clearance motor it gets expensive very quickly when things like the tensioner fail.
     
  21. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    John- Yup, that extra 1000 rpm to the redline makes a difference between the V12s and the V8s. The latest V8 belts undoubtedly are Kevlar reinforced already.
     

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