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Brake Options for F430 Scuderia, CCM or Iron - We have both!!

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  1. racingbrake

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    #1 racingbrake, Mar 3, 2015
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    RacingBrake CCM Stock Replacement Rotors as presented in this thread:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/479549-carbon-ceramic-brakes-f430-f360.html

    Oversize to 410x36/390x32 (CCM or Iron) rotor kits (your choice of OE calipers, or RB calipers) like we offer for 991 GT3 pccb (See pictures below)

    Rotors Only:
    RB CCM Package 991 GT3 w/ST CCM-X Disc (P/N 2C26 & 2C27)

    Complete RB Kits:
    RB Calipers for Porsche 991 GT3 & Turbo S (Center lock Hub) w/ST CCM-X Disc / 997TT (P/N 2C19 & 2C20)

    Above kits available both CCM and Iron Rotor kits.

    Iron Rotor Conversion Kit - Converting Stock's 394x36/350x34 CCM to RB's Iron Rotors:
    400x34/350x34 use 78mm pad from RB or F458 brake pad.

    This kit is in stock and ready to ship.....

    RB Iron Two-Piece Rotor Kit Replacing OE CCM Rotors (P/N 2347 & 2349)
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    #2 tazandjan, Mar 3, 2015
    OEM rotors on the Scuderia/16M/575 HGTC are 398 mm in front. Corvettes with ceramics are 394 mm in front.
     
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    #3 racingbrake, Mar 3, 2015
    Did you just heard this dimension (398mm) or if you have a physical measurement and confirmed it's indeed 398mm

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143769333-post7.html
     
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    #4 tazandjan, Mar 3, 2015
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    That is the number quoted by Ferrari and Brembo, so no need to measure. The 398 mm CCMs were first introduced on the 575M HGTC in late Spring 2004 and later on the Scud/16M. Rear brakes differed in size, 350 mm for the V8s and 360 mm for the 575M and Superamerica HGTC options.
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    #5 racingbrake, Mar 4, 2015
    Thanks for posting the info. The brochure / marketing data is good for discussion, but when it comes to design and mfg we must rely on actual measurement.

    I would think it's real dimension is 395mm - Same size as Aston Martin's DBS which we make both CCM replacement and iron rotor conversion (even the pad is the same).

    If you browse our web you will notice that all our rotors are indicated with dimensions and weight comparison, any deviation to OE are noted.

    We have more than 160 units of spindle knuckle (including Ferrari) and their associated calipers in house to assure the measurement and fitment accuracy, and possible improvement to OE designs.
     
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    #6 tazandjan, Mar 4, 2015
    Warren- Sounds like you need one to measure, then. Should be easy. Until then, they are 398 mm and that is the same number used in the workshop manuals and other tech data, not just marketing material.
     
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    #7 galt, Mar 4, 2015
    Seems like they addressed it in the post below from a different thread. My interpretation is that they say the 394 rotor actually fits the pads better or as well. Please correct as necessary-obviously important to get something like this right.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143769413-post9.html
     
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    #8 tazandjan, Mar 4, 2015
    Yup, read that, but what it actually says is they decreased pad size to eliminate the contact in the unusable region near the hat. Nothing to do with a larger diameter rotor. They wanted confirmation of the 398 mm rotor size and I provided that, except for direct measurement.

    Rotors can be made in any size desired.
     
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    #9 galt, Mar 4, 2015
    Do you know if on OEM Ferrari 398M rotors and OEM pads; do the OEM pads leave about 2-3M on the edge?

    If the answer is that the OEM pads go all the way to the edge of the 398M rotors, then does that mean the OEM pads cannot be used with the non-OEM replacement rotors above when talking about replacements for a scud/16m/575HGTC?
     
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    #10 racingbrake, Mar 4, 2015
    Agree and thank you for clarification.

    Please rest be assured that all our brake products are tooled and made to fit as intended, and in some cases they fit better than OE, contrary to what most people perceive about aftermarket parts.

    So at this time it's not important whether OE is 398 or 394mm, essentially our CCM rotor kits whether ZR1 or ST discs are guaranteed to fit OE calipers better than original CCM rotors.

    Here is another example why we make Mistubish EVO10 replacement rotor in 348mm vs. OE's 350mm.

    Two-Piece Rotor (Surface Mount, Slotted) - EVO X FRONT
     
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    #12 tazandjan, Mar 4, 2015
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    G- Have not checked to see how far the pads extend on the 398 mm rotors. Maybe a Scud owner can chime in.

    Warren- Yup, quite often an untouched area on the outside of a disc. Makes quite a ridge on some car manufacturers' rotors. Have not seen that on Ferrari steel brakes on any of the ones I have owned.
     

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