Upgrade to CCB front Calipers (with Steel rotors)

You might want to do some research and make your brake master cylinder and proportioning will match. It might all work to some degree but may not be optimal. I agree with your aesthetic assessments and your solution sounds good in theory. If you are buying the ccb calipers make sure you get the brackets with them.

 

I ran 396 mm ceramics in front with OEM steel rears for 4 years with no problems. You should be ok, I think. ABS will still keep everything under control. Big problem would be the rears locking before the fronts, but with ABS, that will not happen.

 

Terry - Thanks for your comments from your field experience.

To reconfirm the fitment, we mount the 380x34mm iron rotor (same rotor rings as for Nissan GT-R we offer for 09-11 stock replacement) under the calipers, they fit perfectly w/o a hitch.

The only area we would recommend is to also replace the pad from OE to GT-R pad to eliminate the excessive overhang in the bottom as you can see from two pictures. This pad change is a must because the OE pads is 85mm in lining height vs. GT-R or Mercedes C63 of 65mm. We have both pads in stock with ET500 compound is our standard performance street pad to be included in the package.

What to decide the alternative shorter (65mm) pad between Mercedes' D1291 and GT-R's D1382.

D1291 pad thickness = 15.5mm w/wear sensor connection.
D1382 pad thickness = 18.5mm w/o wear sensor connection. Usually customers chose this pad for more pad life and just disable the wear sensor. Fitment is also confirmed the caliper can fit a thicker pad at 18.5mm with 34mm rotor.

Also a longer bolt (M12x1.5x100mm) would be required to securely mount the the caliper to the spindle, and we are glad to include 4 ea of these 12.9 grade high strength alloy steel bolts in the package for a "bolt-on" installation at no additional charge.

Very innovative and practical brake upgrade idea, keep your great idea coming in to share with the community, chances are we can custom build a kit like this one for you.

Thanks
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Choice of front pad:

Top: GT-R pad 18.5mm w/o sensor connector.
Bottom: Mercedes C63 pad 15.5mm w/o sensor connector

You can see from the other picture for the thickness difference.
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In connection with this front 380x34 upgrade/CCM replacement, we also have rear 350x34mm upgrade/CCM replacement and brake pad.

Although with this rear BBK option you also have to acquire the caliper, and a hand brake for 350mm rear.
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Shipping was quoted via PM.

Yes F430 pads (front and rear) come with sensors. However our recommendation, as a good practice, is to always inspect the pads on a periodic basis - (especially for track use) than just rely on the sensor contacts.

All you need is a flash light and to peek through the caliper spring and see how much lining is left, because you do want just to rely on the sensor, and drive the car until the sensor is triggered - to avoid costly repair on rotor and sensor replacement.

 

Warren- That looks like a good set-up, and yes, both front and rear CCM calipers need new bolts and fronts and rears are not the same. 12.9s sounds like overkill, which is perfect for brakes, where overkill is what you are striving for.

Interesting that the V8s have front and rear sensors. Had not realized that. The Maranellos only have them on the fronts.

 

12.9 caliper bolts are our standard grade.

Wear sensor is random, not all the same, here is what we understand:

360 Mondena & Spider: Front and rear pads are the same and both have wear sensors.
F430 & F430 Spider: Same pads as 360.
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360 Challenge: Front and rear pads are the same, and both have no wear sensor.
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360 CS & F430 Scud: Same 6-pot front and 4-pot rear calipers and pads, and both have wear sensor.

 

Thank you.

Order received and it shall get shipped in a few days when a tracking number will be sent.

 

Congratulations ! This will be a nice upgrade.

I seriously pursued doing this, but the Ferrari dismantlerer
would go no lower than $3K for the front calipers,
I offered $2K, so no deal.

Will look great when done. Are you repainting the calipers ?

 

Adam- You are getting a lot of brake for a modest amount of money. Now just keep an eye peeled for a set of rear calipers and handbrake calipers. Crashes often trash just the rotors, leaving the calipers intact, so you could get lucky again.

Did you find the small red Brembo decals to go with the black Ferrari decals? They are only on the front calipers.

 

Terry - That was a good suggestion to upgrade also the rear calipers (although not easy to come by) to the same as F360CS rear, for a better balance of brake., as you can see the pad size difference from the picture below, the top one is from F360CS rear, while the bottom is for a standard 360.

Since "webber498" is only for street driving so he should be fine, later on if he is lucky again, he now knows where to get his rear rotor 350x34 kits.
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Warren- Yup, that CS pad looks to be about 50% larger.

 

I don't mean to highjack your thread but what happens if you use CCB rear calipers and don't change the handbrake caliper. will the E brake still function properly?

 

Good question, the rotor shown in above rear set up is for a direct swap to factory CCM rotors (350x34), same size, same offset, so your E brake remains with same full functionality if you currently have CCM.

But for 360 owners like "webber498", since his OE rotor is only 330mm (front and rear), so he would have to acquire the 360 CS rear calipers (including hand brake) in order to be compatible with up-size 350x34 rotors. So he decides to only upgrade to our two piece rotors @stock size of 330mm, because no rear calipers are available (at reasonable cost) at present time.

We all know Ferrari calipers not only are highly expensive but are not easy to come by, so for 360 owners we have the following options:

Replace factory one piece to RB two piece rotors & pads:

Surface mount: RB Two-piece Rotor Kit for Ferrari 360 Modena & 360 Spider

Center mount: RB Two-piece Rotor Kit for Ferrari 360 Modena & 360 Spider (P/N 2256)

Or upgrade to bigger rotor set up with factory calipers or complete RB brake kit (including rotors & RB Calipers) to:

A: 380x34/350x34 - Same as 360CS
B: 395x34/350x34 - Same as F430 Scud

We can build the kit with either CCM or iron rotors, so they can be used as:

1. Oversize upgrade with your choice of iron or CCM rotor, so you don't have to find the calipers, our kit will come complete for an easy bolt on installation.

2. Use iron rotor as a swap to factory CCM (CCM to Iron), if you have CCM but prefer to use iron rotor for tracking for lower rotor replacement cost, better modulation, or shelf CCM for re-sale value etc.

3. Use RB/CCM rotors as factory replacement (CCM to CCM) - Retain the use of factory calipers.

The advantage of RB kits is not only our rotors are made 100% compatible with OE, but they fit better, costs less than 1/2 of dealer charges, and perform better and last longer because we use the latest CCM technology with ZR1 discs (made by Brembo) or CCM-X discs made by ST (Surface Transforms)

FERRARI CCM BRAKES

When it comes to brake replacement or upgrade, check us out - RB has something for you from rotor, pad, to complete brake kits.

 

I can't wait to see the end result!