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Considering a Pizzi blue/tan purchase

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  1. Zippy2015

    Zippy2015 Rookie

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    Thoughts on the color?
     
  2. Wisky

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    #2 Wisky, Jun 28, 2015
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  3. NürScud

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    Thumbs up for the specific F40.
     
  4. mtmilam

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    I found my friend a Pozzi Blue. With tan... A beautiful combination on a 430. He didn't want the common Red or the Common Black. ... He gets compliments all the time ... Great choice, just hard to find
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  5. MaranelloDave

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    Agree. Pretty color but the market doesn't seem to like blue Ferraris as much. If you buy, make sure your purchase price reflects this.
     
  6. forzatifosi

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    i like pozzi a lot...pictures don't really do it justice...very rare on a 430..mostly see TDF or Scuro
     
  7. galt

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    #7 galt, Jun 29, 2015
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    Nonsense. The market is saturated with Red Ferrari's. Those same people who pay sometimes 20-30K over for optional colors also want non-red cars when they go pre-owned. Only problem is there are very few cars to choose from. For many buyers red is not an option at all. The guy who painted his f40 Blu Pozzi did not do it for free--and would most probably have been willing to pay fair or over for an already Blu Pozzi car vs buying a red one and going through the considerable cost and hassle of repainting it.

    Buy the color you like. If it happens to be Blu Pozzi (or another historical color) you know that when you sell you will probably have one of the few or the only one in that color on the market.
     
  8. Tally Ho

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    I was looking at an 06 in this colour when I was looking to get an F430. Couldn't make the deal and so I ended up with a nero 07 instead. The blue car I was looking at was in Chicago in 2014.
     
  9. Wisky

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    I was also looking at the Pozzi Blue car at Chicago Motor Cars and like yourself, decided on a Nero car instead.
     
  10. LOLAF1RACER

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  11. MaranelloDave

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    Nonsense? Despite the market being "saturated" with red Ferraris, red ones always sell at the top end of the market. There's a reason they call it "resale red." Maybe some people like different colors and are willing to pay a premium for them, but they are in the minority, meaning your pool of potential buyers is a lot smaller.

    I agree the OP should buy what he likes, but, unless he knows for certain he'll keep the car forever, he should at least consider the marketability of what he is considering buying.
     
  12. galt

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    #12 galt, Jun 29, 2015
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    There is a broad misunderstanding of where the term "resale red" comes from. I mistakenly thought it meant what you are implying above--but was corrected (on another forum) by someone with far more knowledge than I on the history of the term.

    Apparently, it came into use in the late 80s when exotic car prices were taking off. Newbie Ferrari buyers wanted red. However, the problem is that often older Ferraris--especially the older 2+2s were hardly ever produced in Red.

    The story is much different today. Look for yourself in the cars.com or autotrader. It is a sea of red. Even if it is true that lots of people like red--there is no shortage of red cars available. As such the term "resale red" IE people repainting their Ferrari's red to meet demand does not happen in the way it did when the term was coined. In fact today you are probably more likely to find someone who buys a red car and repaints it (as in Chris Evans cars, the aqua blue and blu Pozzi f40s).

    Finally, from a negotiation perspective--I would much rather be trying to buy a car of a color where there are 15 more available..wouldn't you!? Excess supply helps a buyer in almost all cases.

    Also to be considered--color preferences are often fads. Matte is popular today but will it be tomorrow when you want to sell? Who knows.. Buy what you like...
     
  13. galt

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    Love this one...what is the interior color?
     
  14. mtmilam

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    #14 mtmilam, Jun 29, 2015
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    I think most people's first Ferrari wish is RED....I mean every kid wanted a Red Ferrari...its the top of the food Chain...but after you've owned a Red one, and been in the Parking lot of 50 Red Ferrari's...it gets kind of old, and the other colors start to stand out more.......Hence my First was a Red 328....my Second is a Grigio Alloy 430 ...and I LOVE the color, I get more compliments than on my Red one.....just saying...But saying "Red Ferrari" sounds so good :D

    Also, my Friends blue Pozzi 430
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  15. EZORED

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    The first car is California Azul
     
  16. Keith360

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    Why not one Red and your second Ferrari be any color under the sun. ;)
     
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  18. MaranelloDave

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    Bottom line: red sells faster and for more money than other colors. Also, red isn't a "fad" as far as Ferraris go.
     
  19. galt

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    #19 galt, Jun 30, 2015
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    If I own a red car and there are 15 other red ones for sale... Bottom Line: I will have to compete hard on price if I want my car to sell over the other 15 red cars...

    Agree though that lots of people like red.. That is why there are so many of them! Ferrari does not charge more for it to everyone who orders and wants red gets it! On that point, to argue red is always better for resale also implies that the relative balance of red buyers vs other colors grows over time as a car becomes older. Seems far fetched.
     
  20. MaranelloDave

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    That sounds like sound logic, but the market says otherwise. The facts are the facts. As an example, when I shopped for my scud, blue cars were selling for at least a $20k discount to red ones. They also didn't sell quickly.
     
  21. cm2

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    sounds like empirical evidence not fact... ...on a different model with a different (wider?) production color distribution... just sayin.
     
  22. galt

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    #22 galt, Jun 30, 2015
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    Not sure how a one size fits all rule like that could be true for all models and all years. Just has to depend on the supply and demand situation of a specific model. Also some cars just don't look great in certain colors...
     
  23. daviday

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    This picture has been my desktop for a while now. Sucks the artist couldn't get the "f40" on the rear spoiler but probably my favorite picture of Blu Pozzi.

    I've loved this color since I've seen it in person on a 360. I'm happy to see that it wears well on the newer models - I say go for it.
     
  24. houtie123

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    Do whatever turns your screw. If you love it you love it. Drive it for fun and enjoy every minute .
    But please don't listen to some of this advice that blue will in some way be an easy resale. It won't. Ferrari buyers - like you - are extremely picky. And history bears out that rare colours are slow resale movers. Discount it before you buy
     
  25. MaranelloDave

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    Call it whatever you want. Red does better on resale for a Ferrari.

    OP: Again, buy what makes you happy but keep in mind the impact of the color you choose on resale if you think you'll one day sell. Good luck!
     

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