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46567 For Sale on EBAY

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  1. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
    Full Name:
    Sean W
    I am the current owner. If you have any questions, or want to hear the car's story, let me know.
     
  2. SCousineau

    SCousineau Guest

    Jul 17, 2004
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    Do you know what happened to the original V12? The motor is a good portion of the value in a 400i.
     
  3. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
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    Sean W
    The car was recovered with the original V12 motor missing. The chassis was then sold to an exotic car dealership in St. Louis where they began the conversion. The car came into my possession with the V12 motor already gone.
     
  4. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
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    Carbon McCoy
    When it was for sale on eBay through GLB Motorworks of St. Louis, 20 October 2009, they asserted that the salvage title was due to a blown engine. But when GLB put it back on eBay, 05 January 2010, they said it was a theft recovery salvage title.

    Can you clarify what happened? It's pretty clear to me that the car was stolen - but did the thieves grenade the engine, or just remove it from the car and keep it?
     
  5. blkprlz

    blkprlz Formula 3

    Mar 24, 2007
    2,169
    Tampa bay
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    Bruce
    Was kind of surprised the cold air intake wasn't configured the same way (routed up to behind the daylight flasher), that thing's gonna suck up a lot of exhaust heat. :eek:
     
  6. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula 3

    Jan 4, 2012
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    San Leandro, CA
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    Bill Henley
    Is the car registered in California? If so, what was your experience with that process?
     
  7. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
    Full Name:
    Sean W
    The car is not currently registered in California. The rules vary county to county in California, but the car most likely will have to be taken to the referee station.
     
  8. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
    575
    Largs Scotland UK
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    Alastair Houston
    The referee says disqualified for lack of integrity!

    There will never be any reasonable excuse for gruesome molestation of these cars unless there are simply no motors or spare parts to do the work.

    Last I checked plenty so go and build yourself a super mega kit car with great mpg and really fast etc probably rubbish in the end and leave us all in peace.
     
  9. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula 3

    Jan 4, 2012
    1,210
    San Leandro, CA
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    Bill Henley
    Hi Sean. This is not a criticism or anything like that. But I think you would find it very difficult to get a California registration for this car, if it does not already have a Bureau of Automotive Repair approval in its history. There was another member of this forum who tried to bring a 400i in very good condition into Cali from out of state and, even though his very able Ferrari mechanic got it to pass the actual sniffer test, the Cali registration process also includes a closed-room test of emissions that the car would not pass. And each time you undergo this test, the lab charges iirc $3500. This owner eventually had to sell the car out of the state. If I were selling this car I would tell any California bidders that they should research the Cali registration process before bidding. Or better yet, that they probably should not bid at all. Just my $0.02.
     
  10. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
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    California
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    Sean W
    Wow, that is a terrible story! The car does have history of being a California car as it was originally imported to Los Angeles. However, due to the conversion it is a more difficult process. That is why i have a paragraph in the listing telling the buyer to check with their local county regarding motor swaps. Thank you for the advice, it is always appreciated.
     
  11. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula 3

    Jan 4, 2012
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    Bill Henley
    If the car has a Cali registration in its past then it will probably be OK. This means at least that the car's VIN is already in the DMV computer. If it has good catalytic convertors, the LT1 with the GM TPI and ECU should easily pass Smog Check II. If the car still has the BAR plate on the door that should satisfy the test station, without a trip to the referee.

    My experience with The Powers That Be has been fairly extensive, but successful. I bought my '83 about 18 months ago. It still had a Cali title, although it had not been registered since 2003. It had also passed through the hands of an owner in the state of Ohio, but because he didn't change the registration this didn't matter. I live in the East Bay, where Smog Check II is required for registration. I got over that hurdle in June or July of 2012, and thought I would be good for two years. But the DMV came back at me again in April of this year. April was the car's original month of registration, and apparently this means that April will always be the month for the annual renewal. Again I passed the test. Now I am good for two years for sure. I am glad, because both of my rounds with Smog Check have been very time consuming and a little expensive.

    Just to let you know, it can be done.
     
  12. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
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    Sean W
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNHH3uLt17k]Ferrari 400i with Chevy V8 (REV and Walkaround) - YouTube[/ame]

    A little video for those who might be interested.
     
  13. pricebill

    pricebill Rookie

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  14. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
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    Sean W
    Hmm, that is extremely strange. The car is titled as a 1985 Ferrari 400i, and has a 1995 Camero V8 in it. The DMV must of messed up when the were doing the data entry.
     
  15. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Sep 5, 2002
    31,711
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    John
    Well that helps the car by being 10 years closer to exemption, doesn't it?
     
  16. SCousineau

    SCousineau Guest

    Jul 17, 2004
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    #17 SCousineau, Aug 16, 2013
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  17. OttoB

    OttoB Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2013
    699
    Palm Beach, FL
    I have some questions about the car and have written to Sean via eBay a couple of times with no response. Considering buying the car but need to hear about mechanics, body, and electrical.

    Sean, call or write back.

    Thanks.
     
  18. kart

    kart Karting

    Aug 1, 2010
    94
    California
    Full Name:
    Sean W
    Hey, all ebay questions and call have been replied to. Sorry for the delay, i have been at work all day.

    Thanks,

    Sean
     
  19. SCousineau

    SCousineau Guest

    Jul 17, 2004
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    It looks like you have some active bids on the car Sean! Hopefully all works well for buyer and seller!
     
  20. GOB

    GOB Karting

    Dec 22, 2003
    63
    Panama
    Full Name:
    Gus
    Would you mind sharing more details regarding the car? Things such as:
    1- 1995 engine with 20K miles?!
    2- working air conditioner?
    3- headlights work properly?
    4- which gauges need work? I noticed that the video has an extremely high oil pressure reading and it seems that the tach is "slightly optimistic".
    5- has the car been in an accident?
    6- any mechanical issues (engine/tranny)?
    7- suspension: any work done or shocks replaced recently?
    8- brakes: when was the last time they were serviced?
    9- any pending maintenance to be done?

    Thanks in advance for your replies.
     
  21. SCousineau

    SCousineau Guest

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    #22 SCousineau, Aug 19, 2013
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  22. OttoB

    OttoB Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2013
    699
    Palm Beach, FL
    I bought it and getting it to Palm Beach where I'll do a comprehensive assessment of all things mechanical as well as cosmetic in both the interior and exterior. Initially, the plans are to give it the TLC it needs in replacing worn out items and upgrading the interior followed by a probable re-paint.

    I don't expect to see the actual car itself for a couple of weeks, at least, as I am traveling overseas soon and certain the car will not arrive before my departure... I won't get ahead of myself, but do intend on keeping the car for a while whilst ensuring that it looks it's best at all times.
     
  23. It's Ross

    It's Ross Formula 3

    Jul 30, 2007
    2,028
    Barrington, Ill. USA
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    Ross
    Congratulations, I hope you'll enjoy it. Please keep us posted about the car, how well the conversion was done and any problems encountered. While many will dismiss it as a bastard I see little downside.
     
  24. OttoB

    OttoB Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2013
    699
    Palm Beach, FL
    Same here as to downsides but I don't want to open a can of worms in this forum just yet and address that notion now since I am not here to make waves, only to go with the flow and learn as much as I can... But, I do plan to take this car to another level in terms of being the best it can possibly be and will update the forum on the car when developments come about.
     

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