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  1. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
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    Largs Scotland UK
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    Alastair Houston
    #1 alastairhouston, Feb 11, 2014
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    Hello All
    Aye shes back on the market, promise no moaning this time! Needs must. I have lowered the price although there was interest there wasnt a que at the door iether.
    Driving fantastic up to Glencoe skiing last week no traffic and the symphonic sound through the Scottish glens doesnt come any better.
    Regards
    Alastair
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  2. aidanparte

    aidanparte Formula 3

    Jul 18, 2004
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    Looks great, hope you can't sell it... until you no longer need to.

    Seriously, best of luck. If I still lived in Blighty I'd have it like a shot. If I had the cash!

    Aidan
     
  3. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Alastair,

    That is a very nicely prepared brochure on the car, I hope that you get your asking price quickly.

    Just curious though. The engine was fully rebuilt at 48,000 miles and yet it needed an engine out service after only a further 28,000 miles to replace the timing chain, bearings and rebuild the oil and water pump. This seems like a very short mileage interval for these parts to need replacement or rebuilding. Do you know what Mr. Read's idea of a "full engine rebuild" was?

    It would be great to see someone with your sense of stewardship take over this nice looking car.
     
  4. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
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    Good man Aidan
    thanks for the words, all well and regards from blighty (cold windy and wet as you may have heard of late but on the odd bluebird day cannae whak it!)
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  5. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
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    Thanks John
    yep will see how I get on with the interest.

    On the engine rebuild at 48 000 miles it was under the expertise of Roseneath engineerings Phil Stafford and was a full rebuild, the man was a master I have to say god bless him.

    On the engine out after 28 000 miles bearings went on the oil pump unfortunately the oil and waterpump bearings are not accessible with the engine in the car so out she came, at around 300000 miles Ferrari recommend the timing chain be replaced albeit mine had no stretch whatsoever I changed it anyway along with all the bearings. As Phil mentioned at the time when you take an engine out there are things you should do while its out dependant on mileage.
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  6. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Apologies

    timing chain replacement recommendation workshop manual is 30 000 miles or 50 000 kilometers
     
  7. brettski

    brettski Formula 3

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    Best of luck Alastair...she's a beauty and, as you well know, worth far more than your asking price...she's what, like one of 147 built ?

    hopefully, someone who understands that will get in touch with you.

    all the best,

    brett
     
  8. gt4me

    gt4me F1 Veteran

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    Gorgeous car Alastair, not too far from me I lived in West Kilbride as a child.
     
  9. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    +1 -- but add a shot of the rear tailights!
     
  10. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
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    Thanks Brett
    your a master of engineering. Yep on the numbers of the 147 400GT built 27 right hand drive only 10 known left.
    Cheers
    Alastair
     
  11. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Thanks , jings you came from West Kilbride good golf course, my sister Susie Mitchel lived there too! By the way theres another guy from West Kilbride who has a few cars three 246 dinos a F40, 355, 550 and can you believe it he actually drives around in an Audi estate thats my definition of madness!!!!!
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  12. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Alastair Houston
    #12 alastairhouston, Feb 12, 2014
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    Thanks Steve
    Heres the tail lights, they are ok but not perfect as there are a couple of hairline cracks on the sides of the lenses nice and shiny though, I cleaned them all up before refitting when doing the back fuel tanks etc.
    Regards
    Alastair
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  13. rustytractor

    rustytractor Formula 3

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    I'm still gutted you have to sell her !!!
     
  14. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior

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    Hi Alastair,
    You don't mention in your history of the car that it was featured in Auto Italia magazine's 400 buyers' guide back in November 1999. Some people - me included - would see this as a selling point. The car was black back then, with two rear fog lights and an additional reversing light beneath the rear bumper. There's a good photo of Roberto Giordanelli trying to get the car to slide!
    Best, David
     
  15. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Me too Russ but ime going to be a big boy now and not greet, in any case I will be able to use your 365 while your playing with your other car we can both drive down to Monaco on a booze cruise? ( I will do the womanizing bit)
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  16. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Thanks David
    Waw forgot about that indeed I should mention that in the blurb wish I could get a copy of the magazine for interest.
    Indeed I bought the car with the fog and reverse lights got them to take them off as the reverslight was an aftermarket job, cleaned up the back look. I am an expert in making the car slide by the way, its really easy just drive it normally in any rain at all!!! not for the faint hearted the power needs to go down gingerly, in the dry however magnificent.
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  17. rustytractor

    rustytractor Formula 3

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    Now THATS a plan !
     
  18. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Voila David spot on thanks for that

    How good is that, modern technology even for buying a out of print specialized auto mag is really amazing my bid is in.

    Will be interesting to learn about the guy who did the drive for the article I think even in the late nineties there would have been some serious respect for a GT car with such massive performance.

    appreciated.
    Alastair
     
  19. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

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    Dear Tassie
    Purely for the collection mind, If I become a millionaire before the car sells and I suddenly without reason become disinterested in 400GTs I hereby state that I will sell you my car for 10 Aussie dollars, and a few cold beers.
    Regards to the too hot and uncomfortable heat I know you would really prefer the constant freezing gales and rain were getting!
    Alastair
     
  20. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Hmmm,I was wondering when THAT bloke would get a mention!:)
     
  21. rustytractor

    rustytractor Formula 3

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    Now hold on one minute - I'll go UK £20 and the equivalent number of Aussie beers if it'll keep the car in the UK.

    Just being patriotic, not selfish in any way !
     
  22. alastairhouston

    alastairhouston Formula Junior

    Apr 19, 2009
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    Hi Simon
    Heres the plan you get the engine for 8 Aussie dollars and a few beers, Tassie gets the drivetrain for 9 Aussie dollars and a few beers and Russ back in old blighty gets the bodywork for 5 English quid and a few pints of bitter.
    Regards
    Alastair
     
  23. Tassie

    Tassie Formula Junior

    Dec 17, 2009
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    #24 Tassie, Feb 13, 2014
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    Alastair,
    My last 400GT purchase just arrived in Australia, picked it up last weekend. Very pleased.
    Judge for yourselves.
    Drove this back to back with my 412GT, fuel gauge works faster on the 400, car sounds better too, 412 much better cruiser, just as quick but less dramatic. You can certainly see 10 years has been put to good use by the Ferrari boys. More to go wrong though!
    Having said that I don't have a dark grey Ferrari so I will up Rustytractor a 6 pack of Boags Premium, the Aussie guys will appreciate how generous I am being. It should be warm enough by the time it gets to you if I send it sea freight. Or I could pay you what this car owes me.

    The bad news is that I then took the 512BB for a good thrash. Reality check on 400 prices, or 512 prices.
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  24. EVOeng

    EVOeng Karting

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    Tassie, I missed out on that car when it was in the UK. You must have been quite fast, especially at that price!
     

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