412 Exhaust Replacement

Are You thinking an original Ansa ? I checked price on a complete OEM system for my 400GT before I bought my Stebro and it is crazy money. Would have cost me $8-9000 incl. shipping and tax so I passed... Probably about the same for 412.

There are other options that still has approx the original sound

Quicksilver : $3770 ($3325 if cat. version)
Superformance : $3700
Eurospares : $2500 (looks like Ansa at least)

 

I have a never-installed stebro that i'd sell but probably the best OE style exhaust is made by Timevalve. I think Jay (full garage) has pics on here - search for timevalve in this forum.

 

Yeah Christian- +100 for Timevalve- Even has Ansa stickers and makes the car sound soooo rich and refined- NOT loud like a Stebro- car quiets down nicely on the highway.
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I agree with Jay. I finally got my Timevalves installed and the sound is deep, rich and mellow. And as he says, it doesn't wear you our on the highway.
Greg

 

to demonstrate the sound?

 

+1

Would very much like to hear this Timevalve system

 

Unfortunately I sold the 400i 5 speed to keep the 412 auto. (Yeah I know everyone wants the stick- but for ME the auto suits the car better- and for ME the 412 is much more car than the 400i)

My 412 has a factory Ansa stainless system that the PO spent $8K on! Actually it sounds great- a little louder than the Timevalve and honestly- I would replace this with a Timevalve just for the sound alone.

 

Below are three links.
The first is in the garage with the driver's door open and then closed.
The second is running down the road with the windows up.
The third is the same road with the driver's window down.
I hope they work for you.

https://youtu.be/eoquUZ2qGpI
https://youtu.be/10LJ6bH0Dzs
https://youtu.be/6WjSyImCFsw

This was my first try with Youtube. Let me know if there is a better way to share this stuff.

Greg

 

Thanks for doing that, worked fine.
Exhaust sounds good.

M

 

Greg,thanks for sharing. Sounds like the GTC/4 and that's a compliment. Very nice.

Would be nice to hear the sound from the rear like a drive-by. Next time ?

 

Thanks for posting, Greg

 

My 412 is about ready for replacement of the rear exhaust section, and as I've followed the threads for exhaust replacements with interest, I'm wondering if I might replace the centre three silencer boxes at the same time. Clearly, stainless steel would be the choice and I'm interested in the Timevalve option after hearing the sound clips.

Question is if I replace the original system with a Timevalve setup, which appears different to the factory installation design, does that "disqualify" the 412 from entering the FCA Concours in 2016? The judging rules say - "The key purpose of the concours is to promote the preservation of the Ferrari in its original state. Therefore, the primary focus of the judging will be on originality, authenticity and condition with minor emphasis on
cosmetics."

If I proceed, does this disqualify the car forever at FCA concours?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts...

 

I don't have any experience in FCA Concours & maybe others can comment but I wouldn't think your car would be disqualified, there would be points deducted from your score as a result…& you'd be able to enter the car again at a future date with the correct system in place to bring that score up a bit.

 

Potential points deduction.

If the exhaust is of the same style, type and location and is painted black like the original then it's unlikely to be noticed, and even if it is , the deduction would be minor.
The timevalve system appears to be very similar outward apperarance to the OEM system,except that it's made from stainless.

M

 

Thought I'll post pictures of what X-ost can offer for our cars. I got this offer 6 months ago. Rear set 2.170,- and mid section 2500,-. All prices are net. Euro.

Looks nice. Parts are stainless and painted to look like original Ansa. The sound is according to manufacturer "more than original but not exagerated"

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This is what I bought back in 2013. Last system produced before Stebro closed. 2950$ cad + shipping. Fit was so-and-so and rear set had to be altered.
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That's an all too familiar problem with Stebro!…& hence, they're out of business.

 

The funny thing midst the tragic fit was they clearly had no clue as to how the bends over rear axle should be routed. I could swear they looked at a picture and then made it.

Sounds good though

 

Doesn't surprise me in the least from the stories that have been floating around

 

Thinking about eliminating the three center mufflers and running straight pipes back to the resonator. Has anyone done this. Timevalve can make the sections but I'm wondering how the sound and/or performance is impacted. Appreciate any input.

 

I did exactly that on my 400i by having straight test pipes fabricated by Amerispec so that I could remove the cats. The sound was louder than with the cats installed but by no means annoying even on longer trips. Once my car passed the age of needing emissions testing I never reinstalled the cats.

 

Thanks, John. Did you notice any improvement in performance or acceleration?

 

No, not really, but then again I didn't typically hammer the thing very often with WOT. The better sounds may have made it "feel" faster but I couldn't say for sure.

 

Hello All
I'm needing to order a new set of exhausts for my 400i manual. I'm trying to make a decision based on sound and originality. What is the general concensus regarding choice?
I'm considering the Hi Tech (Mille Miglia) Brand, the usual Eurospares and Superformance, and the Time Valve brand.
Appreciate all comments, thoughts and past experiences...