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Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by simonc, Aug 26, 2015.

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  1. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

    Nov 1, 2003
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    Just purchased a Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2 RHD with no history.

    Chassis number is 18619 and is registered in Germany.

    Can anyone tell me anything about the car?

    Thanks
     
  2. Scott Ales

    Scott Ales Karting

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    Any possibility of sharing your opinion of its condition and value? Doesn't need to be what you paid, just what you feel it may be worth.

    Thanks
     
  3. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    Sure. It is on its way from Germany should arrive early next week so more will follow.
     
  4. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior

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    Congrats! Great colour scheme.

    I don't have much on this one.

    Still in its original colours of verde seabird with sabbia interior.

    Registration H-OT 365 (D)

    365 GT4 2+2 #417, RHD #113, Body #362.

    Likely a UK market car, though I have no UK history unfortunately. I suspect it has been in Germany for many years.

    Keep us all posted if you find out more about the history. The Ferrari archives can help you.

    David
     
  5. bundas

    bundas F1 Veteran
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    Did not happen😉
     
  6. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior

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    Simon I forgot to mention that it was seen at Silverstone in 1997, on German plates, so I do have some UK history!
     
  7. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    Patience Mitchell - when it arrives there will be photos
     
  8. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    Thank you David

    Can I ask what the '#417, RHD #113, Body #362' mean. I think I understand the '#362' but not not about the others.
     
  9. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    I also have another question. I am going to give the car a light restoration including a respray, and then I'll probably sell it, but I can't decide whether to keep it the original colour combo (an unusual dark green with a light beige leather, as David mentioned) or to change it to a dark metallic grey and retrim it with dark red leather. Any views?
     
  10. Ak Jim

    Ak Jim F1 Veteran
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    If these cars keep going up in price I think potential buyers will be looking for originality.
     
  11. bundas

    bundas F1 Veteran
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    I will not buy a modified car of any kind
     
  12. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

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    You should absolutely keep to the original colour combination in my view. Particularly so if you don't intend to keep it long term and given it is a rare combination originally and even rarer now. Mind you, I am biased in favour of green cars!

    By the way, I believe this car was originally destined for the UK but was diverted by the Factory. I suggest checking with Tony Willis to see what he can tell you.

    Jonathan
     
  13. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior

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    Simon,
    The information comes from Hilary Raab's serial numbers book, and refers to Assembly sequence number, RHD sequence number, and Body number of coachbuilder (Pininfarina in this case of course). Raab also states a date of 4 July 1975, and Crepaldi as the first owner - which is the name of one of the main Italian dealers of the time. As Jonathan suggests, do check all this with Tony Willis, would be interesting to learn where it was originally delivered. It has a KPH speedometer which may main it has always been in mainland Europe. The all white front lenses also indicate an Italian delivery I believe.

    I also agree that you should keep the original colour scheme. The interior looks decent in the Ebay pics, so you may not need to replace the leather. I would try to find a period stereo and recover the dash in mousehair - both subjects covered on this forum.
    David
     
  14. Scott Ales

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    #14 Scott Ales, Aug 26, 2015
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    Green please!

    A very period color which is now back in style.

    IMHO

    Of course I am biased since my first car was a 1971 Mach 1 Mustang in dark green metallic.

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2120063&stc=1&d=1440645102

    And our combine was John Deere green too!

    Photo is vintage 1978 with me riding on the back. Ahh, the things we used to do for a few bucks.

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2120062&stc=1&d=1440645102
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  15. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    Hey Scott - Horses, horses, always horses!!
     
  16. Scott Ales

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  17. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
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    Congrats on the purchase!

    +1 on keeping the original color combo... Not only for originality, but I also think that the unique colors of the 70s and 80s are in part what gives these cars (and all vintage cars, regardless of their era) their unique flair. Color is indeed an integral part of experiencing these classic beauties - you can't really get color combos like dark green or metallic browns in most cars today.

    Looking forward to pics when the car arrives!

    Cheers!

    Ruben
     
  18. Tassie

    Tassie Formula Junior

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    If you are going to keep it do whatever you want - it is your car.
    If it is for sale then paint it the colour the buyer wants PM me for my preference...
     
  19. dinopaul

    dinopaul Formula Junior

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    If you want an old Ferrari, keep its original détails and enjoy the experience

    If you want to choose your own colors, you can buy a FF, no ?
     
  20. Ashman

    Ashman Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I agree, paint it whatever color pleases you and enjoy it. If the car ever gets so valuable that the original color becomes important, then the cost of returning it to original will be inconsequential.
     
  21. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    #21 simonc, Sep 1, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  22. bundas

    bundas F1 Veteran
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    enjoy in good health for a long time
     
  23. 365boxer

    365boxer Formula Junior

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    Any updates on this one ?
     
  24. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    Waiting to hear about the history from Tony Willis, so should have some more details soon.

    All the brake calipers and the master cylinder/servo are away being rebuilt and refurbished at the moment.
     
  25. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior

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    Hello Simon,
    Just wondered if you have any more updates.
    Regards
    David
     

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