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Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by John Wetzig, Apr 7, 2017.

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  1. John Wetzig

    John Wetzig Rookie

    Aug 2, 2012
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    Can anyone help with info on an a/c compressor for a Series 1 5 speed with dual a/c. There have been several threads on air-conditioning, but none that mention specifically the make and model of the appropriate compressor, or good sources.
    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
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    John if I recall correctly it is a pretty simple match up. There is a tag on it with the model and pert number.
     
  3. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    It's a pretty standard York type compressor, but it might be a good time to switch to a Sanden.
     
  4. SouthJersey400i

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    John
    Sorry for delayed reply; I am re-habbing a hip replacement.

    I have an original, used but good compressor available. Here is my story:

    - My original compressor appeared to have seized, at lest according to local AC shop that had done some work previously.
    - Before pulling compressor, I bought a new bare compressor (no clutch) from Gentry Lane Auto in Canada for $US$1025. They are not a regular F-part supplier; I found via Yourk part number search.
    - I bought a quart of R12 oil and added the required amount.
    - I bought a new clutch from FerrParts for about $300.
    - AC shop did the swap and recharged with R12 and all was good. Because I'm an engineer and what we do is take things apart and "fix" them.
    - First step was to pull the clutch off. It was a total rusted / broken mess. With various pullers and prods I got the clutch off down to bare compressor shaft.
    - Turn the compressor crank and it turned free as can be! It has compression (it sucks and pushes on inlet and outlet). I believe with a new clutch, it is fully usable.

    So this compressor is available for a needed 365/400/412 owner. It will need a clutch and I found they are very hard to find. I put some R12m oil in it just to be sure it stays in good condition; it has been stored in a dry workshop. Car had about 605K miles at time of clutch failure. Note that the casting of this compressor is "Sepia", the Italian York manufacturer. If differs a bit in casting details but all holes and threads match the original.

    The clutch info I have, one I bought: F part # 100437. It is an Ogura Clutch # MA-6A 606, replacing A06-6006.

    John or others send PM with an offer. For general questions, lets continue this thread.
    Ken
     
  5. Ferraridoc

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    I bought a brand-new York for A$350. It was one of the reasons I didn't switch to a Sanden
     
  6. It's Ross

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  7. Tojo

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    Can I ask where you bought it Patrick? I'm gonna need to source one in the coming months. Cheers
     
  8. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    Gizzi sourced it for me. Just PM him when you want one.
     
  9. Ak Jim

    Ak Jim F1 Veteran
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    Have you considered swapping over to a modern sanden style compressor?
     
  10. John Wetzig

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    I am looking for a source, model number and anything else which might help locate a suitable unit.
     
  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    There is an exact duplicate Chinese made unit I have installed in a few cars. Do not recall the part number but I bought them from Ranshu in Reno NV. They were cheap.
     
  12. wrxmike

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    TCCI ( a US company) manufacture the direct replacement for the York 2 cylinder compressor in China. The difference is that the outer body colour is black, not silver
    https://tccimfg.com/tcci-produces-seven-millionth-compressor/

    There are different versions of the TCCI, mainly to do with left and right hand drive suction and the type of inlet and outlet ports.
    See here:
    https://tccimfg.com/resources/
    "2 cylinder service manual"

    The Ferrari equivalent is ER 210R (ER210R-25200)
    Description:
    E - Heavy Duty
    R-Rotolock Head
    2- Cylinders
    10- Capacity C/Inch
    R- Right Hand Suction

    The TCCI is available from many sources, for instance T/CCI Compressors, Ebay etc

    Good post here:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/139941930-post12.html

    BTW The OEM compressor in the Ferrari 308 -412 was made by Aspera, and Italian "York" licensee.

    M
     
  13. Ak Jim

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  14. John Wetzig

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    Aug 2, 2012
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    Thanks to everyone for all this information. I had the car listed for sale, and wanted to replace the compressor, but a gentleman from Manhatten responded to an ad, and bought the car as is, with 74,000 miles, for $49,000, which probably still leaves me in the red. I was going to total it all up, but my wife said "NO!!!". I'm planning to still stay with the Forum, and with FCA.

    Best to everyone.

    Jom
     

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