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Well I did a search on cars for sale in the Continental US. I found 17 on the market. These range in price from 24,000 ( in Vermont) to 139,000 dollars ( in Cleveland of all places). I had 4 manual cars and a mix of M and non M configurations. Most cars were on the market between 55 and 75 k and most were at dealerships, and milage varied all over the map. I really have no idea how long they have been there, but I bet for some months. I know one car has been for sale over 2 years.
I think there are actually more out there, but I think some private owners are loath to actually publicize that their car is for sale. I would bet some of these cars come up at estate sales for quite cheap prices.
I also checked overseas and found dozens available, especially in Switzerland and the UK.. I think as a general rule, the European cars are driven harder, more regularly and show more wear.

I did see one car for sale at 230,000 Euro's.

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Old 08-09-2017, 04:34 PM
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there are many 456mgt's in switzerland because it has one of the highest ferrari ownership rates per capita in the world, and people use them as dailies like i did. but you cannot bring those to the usa yet. so forget about them.

if you are looking for a manual gearbox, and are prepared to pay the premium for it, then my first call would be to craig calder at 'fast cars' in LA. he says one of his clients has one for sale. craig is a first class guy and wont steer you wrong.

my personal thoughts on prices of the moment are good automatics are between 50 and 60k, (mileage may skew this), and manuals are from 90-130k, also depending on mileage. i also tend to gravitate towards cars that have at least seen some regular use. this model does not do well as a garage queen - everything starts to fall apart. they must be used, and the useage brings out all the faults that need to be sorted. so dont be afraid of a car with some miles on it.
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Old 08-09-2017, 04:58 PM
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Here's a cool looking UK RHD 456 GT manual in azzuro, um, not sure, at auction in UK next month.

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1998-ferrari-456-gt
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:56 PM
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Darius- Here are the choices for blues in 1998 unless someone paid extra for paint.
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:06 PM
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Taz, have you got the colours available for 96?
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:03 PM
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John- No, do not. Have what purports to be the 95 colors, but not sure I trust this one as much as the PPG factory chips, if at all. Somewhere in that timeframe, Ferrari was changing paint manufacturers or PPG bought them out. Have not researched that.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:23 AM
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Thanks taz

Mine is azzuro Hyperion metallic, just wondered if it's a standard colour...

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Old 08-10-2017, 03:27 AM
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:45 AM
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there are many 456mgt's in switzerland because it has one of the highest ferrari ownership rates per capita in the world, and people use them as dailies like i did. but you cannot bring those to the usa yet. so forget about them.

if you are looking for a manual gearbox, and are prepared to pay the premium for it, then my first call would be to craig calder at 'fast cars' in LA. he says one of his clients has one for sale. craig is a first class guy and wont steer you wrong.

my personal thoughts on prices of the moment are good automatics are between 50 and 60k, (mileage may skew this), and manuals are from 90-130k, also depending on mileage. i also tend to gravitate towards cars that have at least seen some regular use. this model does not do well as a garage queen - everything starts to fall apart. they must be used, and the useage brings out all the faults that need to be sorted. so dont be afraid of a car with some miles on it.
I'm not quite ready to call anyone yet, but when I am, in the spring most likely, I'll call him. Frankly if a manual 456 is 100k, which seems on the high side to me, and a F1 575 is 110 k, i'm going for the 575. But we'll see, a lot can happen in 6 or 8 months. I'm definitely a GT kind of person. I don't think the dealers deserve the size of the mark-ups that they get.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:51 PM
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Watching the market for 456s I am finding that there is a glut of LHD Autos on the market which should help prices
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my personal thoughts on prices of the moment are good automatics are between 50 and 60k, (mileage may skew this), and manuals are from 90-130k, also depending on mileage.
I have to respectfully disagree with such a gap. No way it's worth double the price based on auto vs manual. Manual seems to always be a little higher but not by this much.

The fact that the full prnd automatics are also a rare breed within Ferrari's production add to the value and charm in my opinion.

I actually preferred an Automatic and would have paid equal if not more for it because it's what I wanted. I'm probably in the minority but still I'm sure I'm not alone.
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I have to respectfully disagree with such a gap. No way it's worth double the price based on auto vs manual. Manual seems to always be a little higher but not by this much.

The fact that the full prnd automatics are also a rare breed within Ferrari's production add to the value and charm in my opinion.

I actually preferred an Automatic and would have paid equal if not more for it because it's what I wanted. I'm probably in the minority but still I'm sure I'm not alone.
i didnt say i agreed with those valuations....thats just what they are. show me i am wrong....
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:33 AM
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i had a chance to drive the 456 around after getting its complete service.

i am actually amazed, the automatic is a very nice car to drive.
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:31 PM
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Henry- Affirmative, unlike the 400 Ferrari series of automatics, the 456/456M Ricardo/GM 4 speed is well matched to the V12 torque characteristics.
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:19 PM
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Just saw a 456M GTA on e bay for 48k.

1999 Ferrari 456 456M GTA | eBay
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:46 PM
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Just saw a 456M GTA on e bay for 48k.

1999 Ferrari 456 456M GTA | eBay

Nice. While looking through that ad, this one further down caught my eye. Looks great in the darker reds.

http://sports-car-company-llc.ebizau...-16672991.html

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Old 08-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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Just saw a 456M GTA on e bay for 48k.

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nice one. it isnt actually selling for 48k, that is the current bid. dunno what the reserve is
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:50 AM
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nice one. it isnt actually selling for 48k, that is the current bid. dunno what the reserve is
looks like no reserve high bidder wins
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if it doesnt get pulled
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