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Ferrari 456 - 2008 TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE - how bad it can be?

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  1. e_lm_70

    e_lm_70 Rookie

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    #1 e_lm_70, May 4, 2015
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    Hi,

    I'm evaluating to acquire this Ferrari 456 ZFFWL44A730131637 for less then 40k Euro, only 9300km ... but with this history in the past:

    04/05/2008 Iowa
    Damage Report Accident reported
    Involving front impact
    Vehicle jackknifed
    It hit a bridge/overpass
    Front area primarily damaged
    Severe damage reported

    04/05/2008 Damage Report Damage reported after
    accident or other incident
    Damage to right front
    Damage to left side
    Damage to left side quarter post

    04/07/2008 Junge Volvo Lincoln Mercury Isuzu
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    319-393-6500
    junge.com Battery/charging system checked

    04/22/2008 Junge Chrysler Jeep Dodge
    Center Point, IA
    319-849-2022
    junge.com Vehicle serviced

    05/29/2008 Damage Report TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE


    05/29/2008 Iowa
    Motor Vehicle Dept. Title or registration issued
    to insurance company

    05/29/2008 2,499 Iowa
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Des Moines, IA
    Title #77SA65821 SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
    Vehicle color noted as Blue

    09/30/2008 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #0101453325 Dealer took title of this vehicle
    while it was in inventory
    SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
    Vehicle color noted as Blue

    Next History is:

    2010*-04*-02 Bydgoszcz Kujawsko*Pomorskie Voivodship Poland

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    Now car is metallic red ... but it was looking it did born in Blue.

    Any suggestion ?

    Thanks
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  2. mfr456

    mfr456 Karting

    May 3, 2015
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    #2 mfr456, May 4, 2015
    totally demaged and then rebuilt....better to avoid....
     
  3. Themaven

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    #3 Themaven, May 4, 2015
    I would buy this car just as readily as I would buy a Picasso painted last weekend at the Venice biennale this week. There are plenty of nice 456s for not much more money. And the mileage on this one could be as authentic as the paintwork.
     
  4. bay

    bay Formula 3

    Mar 13, 2011
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    Bernard
    #4 bay, May 4, 2015
  5. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #5 134282, May 4, 2015
    Where are you located? And who is representing the car for sale? I have 131637 as Grigio Titanio with gray leather, last seen for sale on eBay in L.A.

    Bernard, do you know the year of that auction listing?
     
  6. e_lm_70

    e_lm_70 Rookie

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    #6 e_lm_70, May 4, 2015
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    Interesting ...

    After crash was: "Vehicle color noted as Blue" ... why should have change the color in 2 years ...

    But yes ... it was born in Titanium color ... 2 sources prove it ...

    Yes, the price asked is in line with the market ... but here is very difficult to source a decent Used Ferrari

    I was looking for crash photo of ferrari 456 ... but I guess I did not find it

    Or maybe it was this one:

    Actually it can be this (last photo), since date is April '08 ...
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  7. e_lm_70

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    #7 e_lm_70, May 4, 2015
    ?????

    The CarFax history say that US live ended on 2008 ... how can you be still owning this car?
     
  8. bay

    bay Formula 3

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    #8 bay, May 4, 2015
    456M GT, VIN ZFFWL44A730131637 (2003 USA model). Titanium with dark gray
    interior. One-owner car, sold at FBH. Aluminum calipers, Daytona seats, shields,
    custom stereo and navigation system. All books, tools and covers. One of the last
    456Ms built. Only 1,628 miles. $165,000.
    9/05
    Ferrari of Beverly Hills, Ferrari Beverly Hills Serving Los Angeles | Ferrari Repair, Parts & Financing, 310-275-4400 (CA)
     
  9. ///Mink

    ///Mink Formula Junior

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    #9 ///Mink, May 4, 2015
    Carbon doesn't own it, he keeps a database of Ferrari VINs and sales history. It's pretty amazing.
     
  10. Themaven

    Themaven F1 Rookie

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    #10 Themaven, May 4, 2015
  11. craterface

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    #11 craterface, May 6, 2015
    That is what I would offer.
     
  12. 635CSI

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    #12 635CSI, May 6, 2015
    Not with those wheels..my eyes !
     
  13. 166&456

    166&456 Formula 3

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    #13 166&456, May 6, 2015
    Those wheels indeed. Do the originals come with the car? Why does it have different wheels to begin with, the damage was severe enough to damage wheels and Ferrari wheels proved too expensive?
    Also note that the front bumper does not have side markers while the rear does.
    All this tells you something about the attention to detail in the rehabilitation process of this car.
     
  14. ///Mink

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    #14 ///Mink, May 6, 2015
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  15. Barnyb

    Barnyb Karting

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    #15 Barnyb, May 6, 2015
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  16. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #16 134282, May 7, 2015
    Tom, thank you for this clarification (and the compliment!).
    Hi, e_lm, as Tom has already indicated, I don't own this car - I've never owned it - I merely maintain a Ferrari database where I attempt to keep track of every Ferrari ever made. I don't have any history on 131637 post-2007, just the following two entries: For sale at Ferrari Beverly Hills, May, 2005, Grigio Titanio with gray leather, Daytona seats, light gray stitching, shields, aluminum calipers, 1,628 miles, one owner. Then, in October, 2007, it was for sale on eBay through what I can only assume was a private seller located in L.A., 2,450 miles, purchased new through FBH "by the first/only owner."

    After October, 2007, I don't have any additional information on this car in my database.

    I apologize for the confusion in my initial post. I realize that when I said, "I have 131637," you read it to mean that I had it, meaning I owned it, when in reality I meant that I "had" it in my database. I'm sorry.
     

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