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456 M GT - RM Auctions Arizona

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  1. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    #1 Ferrari 308 Vetro, Dec 10, 2016
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    Will be interesting to follow, what you think? Car looks great and is no reserve.

    2001 Ferrari 456M GT | Arizona 2017 | RM Sotheby's

    2001 Ferrari 456M GT

    Chassis no. ZFFWL44A710124619
    Without Reserve

    442 bhp, 5,473 cc 65-degree V-12 engine, six-speed manual transaxle gearbox, independent front and rear suspension with coil springs over gas-filled telescopic shock absorbers with self-levelling rear suspension, and four-wheel disc brakes. Wheelbase: 102.3 in.

    Recent timing belt service by a Ferrari specialist
    Just under 4,450 miles from new
    Rare and desirable six-speed manual example


    At the 40th anniversary celebrations of Garage Francorchamps in Brussels, Belgium, in 1992, Ferrari chose to introduce its newest four-seater grand touring car, the 456. Featuring an all-new 65-degree V-12, this was a dramatic departure from the outgoing 412, boasting elegant Pininfarina styling that was sure to propel Ferrari into the 21st century whilst harkening back to the elegant GT cars of the 1950s and 1960s.

    Of course, as a four-seater Ferrari grand-tourer, its performance was exceptional. The 456’s V-12 was capable of producing 442 horsepower at 6,200 rpm, and it could reach speeds of over 186 mph and accelerate from 0–60 mph in 5.2 seconds, which were quite impressive performance figures for its day. Gorgeously appointed throughout, it boasted a full leather interior with electronically adjustable front seats and was outfitted with all the requisite luxuries, including electric windows and doors, an eight-speaker stereo system with a CD player, and air conditioning. For those riding in the rear, there was more than enough space for two adults for a short journey.

    For 1998, Ferrari introduced an updated version of the 456, dubbed the 456M. This introduced a number of subtle changes throughout to improve the overall driving experience but kept the overall feel and personality of the car. New seats were fitted and the dashboard was revised, the hood scoops were removed, and a slightly larger grille was fitted; further, the 456M received a fixed undercarriage spoiler in place of the original motorized spoiler. Horsepower and performance remained unchanged. As was the case with the original 456, an all-synchromesh six-speed transaxle manual gearbox was standard, but buyers could also opt for an automatic transmission.

    Finished in a seldom seen and attractive color combination of Blu Pozzi over a light blue leather interior with contrasting dark blue piping, this particular 456 remains in wonderful condition throughout. According to its original window sticker, it was outfitted with brake calipers in aluminum and Scuderia Ferrari shields, as well as color-matched stitching and a color-matched steering wheel. Currently, the car shows less than 4,450 miles from new on its odometer and remains ready for further road use following a recent belt service by a Ferrari specialist. Importantly, it retains all of its original books, keys with remotes, and its original toolkit. While the car is currently fitted with a Tubi exhaust, the original exhaust will be included in the sale.

    For the enthusiast looking for a subtle automobile with exceptional performance and true grand-touring credentials, a 456M GT would be a perfect choice. With space for four plus luggage and powered by a front-engined V-12 with nearly 450 horsepower on tap, this would be the perfect choice for cross-country trips at speed whilst remaining under the radar.
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  2. Jürgen Geisler

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    What a nice looking 456, attractive color combination, six speed, the only way is up for this specific car...
     
  3. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    What are you expecting Jürgen?
     
  4. riccardone

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    either they took pics when the car was very dirty, or the paint looks more chippy than I'd expect on such a low mileage car.
     
  5. Themaven

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    Is that really chipping around the front bonnet/hood badge? Something not quite right if so.
     
  6. Jürgen Geisler

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    …as Riccadone and Darius mentioned, after a second glance don't understand the stone chips on such a low mileage car...

    Still, a quiet perfectly configurated car imho... But, even if so, don' t see any reason for the stone chips. My Maranello has appr. 16.000 miles, just a view stone chips, as well painted in Blu Pozzi…
     
  7. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    What result are you expecting?
     
  8. killer58

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    My guess is the dash and wheel color will somewhat dampen the 6-speed premium.
    Low miles is a plus if maintenance records show things like recent engine mounts, shocks, windows, etc.

    I'll take a guess and say $80-90K
     
  9. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    I also would say if all is reall OK with the car - Close to 100$
     
  10. Jürgen Geisler

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    Actually not sure regarding the results, just a little bit more than one year ago the market was quiet calculable. Actually it isn't, some nice cars are sold below their value, some above, imho. Depends in an auction also if some bidders are strongly interested in the same car....

    Would personally estimate it slightly below 100.000 $, considering the very low mileage (by European standards), an attractive color combination and some small issues.
     
  11. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Problem is, its nothing fir the Euro market, becouse to young. Impossible to import it.
     
  12. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Estimare 150-225.000,-- (!!!)
     
  13. riccardone

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    If this one trades with a 2 handle and the black one breaks six figures, it'll be a defining moment for the 456 market. Might mean goodbye to my aspirations of owning a manual V12 at some point. 😥
     
  14. tantumaude

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    No way it'll pull 200. But I do think things are changing.
     
  15. 166&456

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    Why would it be impossible? Expensive because of taxes yes, but not impossible. If Austria won't allow it, it can first be imported into another EU country that does.
    150-225k estimate? It does have very few miles. This will be interesting.
     
  16. MogulBoy

    MogulBoy Formula Junior

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    Without Reserve will generate interest but for me, the broad estimate range (the top is 150% of the bottom) shows a certain lack of confidence about where this car should sit.

    Not directly comparable but in Feb 2015, a 400 mile UK RHD 456M did well at Silverstone's Race Retro sale and took £118k (circa $180k at that time) vs. the estimate of £75-90k.

    https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1999-ferrari-456m---400-miles-from-new
     
  17. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    I guess the RM car will go over 100$ hammerprice
     
  18. galileo

    galileo Formula Junior

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    This car will definitely break 100k.
     
  19. Themaven

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    Makes this one look cheap

    Ferrari 456 GT for sale

    DK I think have a reputation for selling good cars, but not cheap ones.

    Always annoying when they don't show the driver's seat - makes you assume it's in a nasty state.
     
  20. riccardone

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    Or maybe, just maybe, the blue one will puke for like $70k and the black one won't meet reserve, and 456 owners worldwide will panic and will rush to be the first to dump their cars and... Ok, won't happen. A man can dream, though 😁
     
  21. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    LHD and 35.000 mls!
     
  22. Il Tifoso

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    Keep dreaming... ;)

    As others have mentioned, I had a hunch that 456s were going to start to hike up in price. They're just too good and too beautiful to be at the relatively low prices they've been commanding, even in what many agree is a softening market. We'll see what these auctions bring... will be interesting for sure!

    Cheers!

    Ruben
     
  23. Themaven

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    Both the cars are LHD.

    35k miles isn't high by Euro 456 standards, and even so: you can buy the Italian car at DK for 64k USD right now. If the US car sells for near its high estimate plus fees, you are looking at 230k + USD. The US car is an M, the Italian car is not; but still. That spread is not realistic.
     
  24. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Sorry, meaned RHD, but it is LHD, all good. Sorry for the confusion ;-)
     
  25. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    This Weekend we know more...
     

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