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Old 08-09-2017, 07:35 PM
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There's a Pozi Blue 550 at Fantasy Jxn:

2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

Apparently always a California car that had the cam belts, but nothing else (e.g. cam seals, fluids, water pump, etc), done by Patrick Ottis. I'm much more familiar with the vintage V12s, than I am with these cars, but am somewhat interested in this car. Any comments from those of you who know these cars better than I? 11,500 miles, several owners, clean carfax, and priced at $168K. Any things I should inquire about? Ottis no longer does PPIs, so is there someone in the area who might have a more nuanced view here? thanx steve
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:19 AM
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Looks like a good used car. It is just a unit so buy it an enjoy it. It is a good color nice interior color and has the best wheel combo which could be +10k right there. It has the nicest interior wants the quilted rear deck etc. Seat pattern is more individual taste but that pattern is considered an upgrade.

Is that 1 red and 2 black fobs I see in the picture? Yes=good no=worth less money
is interior sticky? I see leather pull on wheel what about dash? I see about $3k to fix that stuff
belt change without 30k is designed to fool unsuspecting that critical service is done. A 30k service is a 5 year service. complete 30k service not done every 5 years regardless of miles is considered a lack of maintenance. Things pop up with a no maintenance car like you start driving and the water pump started weeping. So either expect niggling issues to pop up or do the 30k service and intercept them that service is about 3-5K depending on the while you were in theres. Even the 11k mile brakes need to be serviced. moisture is absorbed by brake fluid and fouls the pistons despite perfect looking pads and rotors. Those brakes need to be serviced. If not part of the 30k service add another 1000

I hope that does not scare you off. All 550's are used cars. No mater what 550 you buy you are going to need to fix something.

I will say the 550 is the easiest daily driver like Ferrari super comfortable to drive with GT feel. Power and torque are like a drug. It's hard not to like the 550. The A/C will freeze you too.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:47 PM
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Just bought a Ford GT from Bruce. I will say the car is exactly or better than he described and they were a real pleasure to buy from. Sight unseen as well which I never do, but just had a good feeling.

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Old 08-10-2017, 01:55 PM
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Looks like a good used car. It is just a unit so buy it an enjoy it. It is a good color nice interior color and has the best wheel combo which could be +10k right there. It has the nicest interior wants the quilted rear deck etc. Seat pattern is more individual taste but that pattern is considered an upgrade.

Is that 1 red and 2 black fobs I see in the picture? Yes=good no=worth less money
is interior sticky? I see leather pull on wheel what about dash? I see about $3k to fix that stuff
belt change without 30k is designed to fool unsuspecting that critical service is done. A 30k service is a 5 year service. complete 30k service not done every 5 years regardless of miles is considered a lack of maintenance. Things pop up with a no maintenance car like you start driving and the water pump started weeping. So either expect niggling issues to pop up or do the 30k service and intercept them that service is about 3-5K depending on the while you were in theres. Even the 11k mile brakes need to be serviced. moisture is absorbed by brake fluid and fouls the pistons despite perfect looking pads and rotors. Those brakes need to be serviced. If not part of the 30k service add another 1000

I hope that does not scare you off. All 550's are used cars. No mater what 550 you buy you are going to need to fix something.

I will say the 550 is the easiest daily driver like Ferrari super comfortable to drive with GT feel. Power and torque are like a drug. It's hard not to like the 550. The A/C will freeze you too.
+1. Looks like really nice example w/ several obvious issues from the photos. Like FBB says, they all need (or will need) something so do a PPI and go in eyes -- and wallet -- wide open.
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:29 PM
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Nice car Steve!

Having bought mine two and a half years ago, I had just regulary serviced the car every second year (oil and filters, brake fluid changed etc...). Drove mine just 500 km each year, there is no really wear on these items....

Every fourth year I'll have a new engine belt & new tensioners Service at a fixed price of 1.000 € + VAT....
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…by the was, had contact with Bruce regarding a De Tomaso Pantera, very open and honest conversation ....
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which fobs should be present?
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:56 PM
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There's a Pozi Blue 550 at Fantasy Jxn:

2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello

Apparently always a California car that had the cam belts, but nothing else (e.g. cam seals, fluids, water pump, etc), done by Patrick Ottis. I'm much more familiar with the vintage V12s, than I am with these cars, but am somewhat interested in this car. Any comments from those of you who know these cars better than I? 11,500 miles, several owners, clean carfax, and priced at $168K. Any things I should inquire about? Ottis no longer does PPIs, so is there someone in the area who might have a more nuanced view here? thanx steve
I'm a 575 owner for 13 years and no expert but will be a "contrarian". Do you want a 550 or a Ferrari? When I bought my 575, I wanted a Ferrari as new a possible that I could afford; the first choice, a 360 spider was too expensive. At that time v12s had the steepest depreciation and a 2 1/2 yo 575M with 2500 miles, manual trans and FHP was the best bang for the buck at $175,000. Ownership ain't cheap, especially if you drive it, which you should.

If I was looking today, using the same criteria that I used in 2004, I would seriously be looking for the newest FF (I know they look weird but it kinda grows on you) with "high" mileage ie 10-15,000 for under ~190,000. Likely to be best bang for the buck and the v12s are great driving cars; I have >100k miles on mine.

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i'd really prefer a 575 with 6-speed, but they just ain't (to me) worth the upcharge over a 550. I have vintage V-12s, but only the Maranello (or a nice carbed 308), for "moderen Ferraris", ticks all of the boxes for me...at any price. s
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Looks nice enough one thing that I noticed is the steering wheel airbag leather is bubbled as others have mentioned however I have fixed that myself on one of my cars with a hair dryer heated the leather hot then took a flat covered blade and pressed it back in place original glue when heated up adhered fine.... still looked good when I sold the car a year or so later cost 00 and 10 minutes like magic.....
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Old 08-13-2017, 03:39 AM
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Looks nice enough one thing that I noticed is the steering wheel airbag leather is bubbled as others have mentioned however I have fixed that myself on one of my cars with a hair dryer heated the leather hot then took a flat covered blade and pressed it back in place original glue when heated up adhered fine.... still looked good when I sold the car a year or so later cost 00 and 10 minutes like magic.....
Interesting tip Ill try that on my 456.

Back to the car, Stunning colour combo, My 1750 ALFA was same combo new.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:06 AM
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Feeling ambivalent, as I do, i'll think more on this after the Monterey weekend. Do much appreciate the tip on fixing the steering leather wheel bulge, which is ugly. The didn't use Gorilla glue, I guess. What is the best fix for the "stickies"? s
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:44 AM
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Indeed a great looking example.
HVAC panel needs replacement, can't see in any of the photos the usual location of dash pull (at the very front of the dash just rear of the climate slits)

I gotta tell you, if I was buying again, I would definitely seriously consider this vehicle. I would think that the biggest issues would be to get a look at all of the suspension bushings, shocks, and the actual service records to see what EXACTLY has constituted "service" in this vehicle in the past.

And get rid of those awful wheels (sorry Carl) :-)

AND that center resonator! :-)
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thanx for the advice. steve
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