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  1. abstamaria

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    Are the jacking points (used for floor jacks) suitable for raising the 458 on a two-post lift?

    Many thanks, and regards,

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    #3 luvair, Mar 18, 2014
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    Works fine with my Rotary two post lift. Just make sure you know the jack points for your 458. I use hockey pucks for a little cushion/protection between lift and jack points.
     
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    +458 on the hockey pucks, they work on all my cars.
     
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    Many thanks, all. No 458 yet, but seriously considering. Hockey pucks are always mentioned in garage forums. l must order some.

    Andy
     
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    I have Rotary symmetrical lifts............for FErrari and really low exotic sports cars...........request the special LOW arms and extra $350............these allow really low sports cars that we all love to easily lifted and these have rubber spin up and spin down integrated hockey style pucks.

    These low A arms typically will swing under very low cars and saves you a hassle and aggravation of buying extra ramps to get a low sports car on and or off a lift. If you have a really low race car like my Porsche CUP car you still may need 4 pieces of 2 by 12" plans 14" long with a 45 degree chamfer cut so you can swing the lft arms under the car.

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    Evan can shoot you photos and or cruise by our facility and check it out in person.
     
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    Many thanks, all. My 458 finally arrived. Great!

    The jacking points are not immediately evident underneath the car. When anyone of you has a 458 on a tw0-post lift, I would appreciate it if you can post a photo or two. I will also try to visit the dealer when they have a 458 on a lift.

    many thanks,

    Andres
     
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    #9 abstamaria, Aug 8, 2015
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    To consolidate advice given there, let me share part of a manual Luvair posted in that other thread. This is quite interesting. I am not sure if this is specific to 458s, but it seems to be.
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    #10 abstamaria, Aug 8, 2015
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    The lift points, or at least the jack points, seem to be where the hole in the exposed aluminum frame is. Is this where the pads on a 2-post lift are to be positioned?
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    #11 abstamaria, Aug 8, 2015
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    The rear points (with the hole) are very far forward, so on a lift much of the rear would overhang. That seems precarious, but if everyone lifts at those points, the car should be secure. The location of the rear point is indicated by the flashlight in the photo.
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    #12 abstamaria, Aug 8, 2015
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    The holes are threaded, so I imagine that the “bushes” or “bushings” referred to in the instructions posted above thread into the holes to keep them in place while the lift arms are being positioned.

    I know everyone uses hockey pucks, and I will get some, but I just wondered if those lift bushes are what we are supposed to use
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    I find this thread very informative. Thanks everyone for posting. I have an F12 and been wondering this myself.
     
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    I was too cheap and impatient to buy hockey pucks so I used oak, they work fine
     
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    #15 abstamaria, Aug 18, 2015
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    The problem with using a hockey puck is that the exposed area of the frame – the jack (and perhaps also the lift) points – is quite small. The3"-diameter puck will press against the surrounding plastic. The plastic deforms, however, so perhaps that is all right.

    That is why the instructions refer to "bushes" - apparently cylinders with a diameter of not more than two inches, I estimate. I wonder what these bushes are made of.
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    #16 abstamaria, Nov 11, 2016
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    I brought the Italia to the local dealer for service and was interested to see how they would lift the car. I took photos. They used a specially made rubber block and used this lift point.
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    #20 abstamaria, Nov 12, 2016
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    For comparison, here is the jack point (left) noted in the manual and the lift point (right) used by the dealer. The lift point is farther aft than the jack point and so is more reassuring in a mid-engined car. It also offers a wider surface, so hockey pucks should work.

    The problem with a 458 is that it won’t stay in neutral with the key off. One would want to get out of the car and then push the car into place. The lift posts in a symmetrical lift won’t allow the doors to open wide enough. The “car-wash” mode remains a mystery to me.
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    Thanx for sharing Dave !
     
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    #22 Dave rocks, Nov 12, 2016
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    Are you 100% sure about this? No way to manually override the electronic parking brake?

    What happens if the car has to be towed up a flat bed - your drag it up? Or can't you just leave the key in?

    PS - Here is from the WSM that I posted in the garage pic thread too.
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    My pleasure :)
     
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    Thanks, again, Dave. There is a car-wash mode that leaves the car in neutral without brake on. I just have to figure out out. What is may be doing wrong is taking the key out.

    Andres
     
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    Easy. When you turn the key off from running, don't pull the key out but within a few seconds, turn the key back to on. Car wash mode will show in the left hand screen. Car can be put into neutral.

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