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Would you prefer a Turbo or NA engine on the 458 Successor?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Finlander, Apr 19, 2014.

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Turbo or NA Engine?

  1. Turbo

  2. Naturally Aspirated

  3. Doesn't matter to me

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  1. Finlander

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    With the current conversation of the next car having a turbo I am just curious to know what people would prefer if you had the choice....Turbo or NA?

    Personally I would prefer NA as I just do not like turbos whatsoever.
     
  2. Woppum

    Woppum Formula Junior

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    I have said it before but I've never driven a turbo car I have liked. I will most probably end up going elsewhere if they go boost.
     
  3. bigblock737

    bigblock737 Formula Junior

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    The Midengine V8 needs to be NA... That's why I don't drive a 991 Turbo ;)
     
  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    If they go to a 5 liter NA engine, that should provide 625-670 hp.
     
  5. rblissjr

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    NA.. That's why I'm getting a Speciale instead of the replacement. It's music to me..

    Rb
     
  6. Traveller

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    You had better get used to it. The new 458 is a Turbo.
     
  7. Woppum

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    IS ? Certainty or very very likely ? I thought not yet confirmed...?
     
  8. Traveller

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    Stated clearly by LDM and no company can afford to develop a Turbo engine just for one model, so totally logical as well.
     
  9. Woppum

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    LDM ?

    And agree regarding engine development, however of course they have Maserati.
     
  10. Noblesse Oblige

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    Maybe so but I don't have to like it. I feel that one of the reasons I pay as much as I do for the FCars is to experience the sound and feel of the high compression, super high winding engine. If turbo is in the cards, all bets are off.

    PS still waiting for an objective test of the California T. That will tell us a lot.
     
  11. redcaruser

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    I completely trust in Ferrari (and Maserati).
    Whatever they develop, the successor (turbo) engine will set new benchmarks, will be "best of breed".
     
  12. Richietheruler

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    Stop spreading bs gossip! Im pretty sure the the cali turbo engine is used in Masteratis more than in ferraris plus you're forgetting that the Cali T will be replaced in 3 years.
     
  13. leead1

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    I say it depends.I drove a 2013 twin turbo Porsche a few weeks ago. The car has stunning looks but.......

    The car had no sound. just none. The car was fast 0-60 2.9 seconds but no sound. I loved the car anyway but

    I generally like an exhaust sound in my car. My 458 has a awesome sound likewise my Aventador, even my Shelby has a great sound.

    The dealer said the twin turbos would not allow sound. They had a 911S there also which I drove. It had a much better sound.

    So back to the question, If a turbo Ferrari had much better hp and a great sound. I am okay with it along as there is no turbo delay or hysteresis in throttle response.

    If it has those bad traits keep, it as it is

    Best

    Lee
     
  14. gt4me

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    F40's all sound pretty good to me.
     
  15. bigblock737

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    Yep, but also biiiiig turbo - lag ;-)
     
  16. Traveller

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    Please, look at my record on 'information' before accusing me. Gossip is of no interest to me.

    PS Welcome to the Forum.
     
  17. gilly6993

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    NA hands down.....I have TT already (GT-R) and the visceral difference is night and day.....
     
  18. F430kenric

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    Either is fine for me. Love turbo cars, and N/A..have 12C, 458, 911 turbo,....you can make more power with turbos easier. We shall see. I would bet turbos are coming.
     
  19. quasi C

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    What about one generation of turbo and then back to NA+KERS once the technology is available for this price range?

    Just wishful thinking isn't it? :/ More likely will be turbo+kers I guess.
     
  20. RBK

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    I like normally aspirated engines and unless Ferrari overcomes the turbo lag/sound issue(s) my historical knee jerk response to buying the next Ferrrari may be curtailed. Not sure if it will be a deal killer, but subject to more scruitininy.

    I own two twin turbo cars (Porsche and Bentley) and the sound eminating from the Bentley (even with a Tubi Exhaust on the Porsche) is much more melodious (puzzling how they do it). Contrasting both are my supercharged cars both making allot of power and a nice sound.


    Based on my experience, I would rank order engines

    Supercharged -----------------more power and no sacrificing sound
    Normally Aspirated ----------------usually sufficient power with good sound
    Turbo charged ---------------good power but turbo "lag" and unimpressive sound

    Best
     
  21. Ferrari 360 CS

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    I would prefer NA but I think turbo is inevitable but lets look at things in perspective, chances are they will be two low pressure turbo's so in essence there will be a considerable improvement in low to mid range torque and still the epic top end of the current 458. Well, that's what I am hoping at least.
     
  22. qwertstnbir

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    Lamborghini have opportunity to steal the audience they just need to build RWD version of Huracan
     
  23. arizonaitalian

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    I won't say "steal" customers, but I'd welcome more RWD sports cars...I dislike AWD as much as a turbo in my sports cars.
     
  24. racer959

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    I have a 993 turbo with custom exhaust and I think it sounds pretty good. Go to you tube 993 turbo exhaust grey Porsche rear end view. I don't know how to post a video here. Maybe someone can help, thank you.
     
  25. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    F40 and earlier Porsche turbo can sound good. BUT, today's very efficient multivane, multi-turbo technology is designed to utilize all/most of the exhaust energy...good news is lag is largely eliminated, bad news is sound inevitably suffers (and high rpm redline). Doesn't mean it won't have any sound, or won't sound "okay", but please, let's be real, it won't sound as good as older tech turbo (F40) nor as good as 9000RPM NA. Oh well.
     

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