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Old 12-29-2014, 05:44 AM
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Question Paint Protection Film, which one?

I will soon replace factory installed film on my Speciale. Now there are so many brands on the market but I guess the most well known are 3M, XPel, LLumar. So which one is the best?

My dealer recommends LLumar, any feedback?

Also is it be OK to use wax/polish on these films?

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:05 AM
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I do have 3M on mine, except for the sills where they used thicker film I don't know the brand of...
I wax the car as usual, also the film...
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:46 AM
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I have 3M Venturashield on some of my cars and Xpel on one. Everyone saying that the Xpel is superior but I don't see any difference. In fact the Xpel had to be redone for some quality control issues. Supposedly the Xpel can autocorrect if warm water is poured on it. As far as aftercare, I polish or wax right over both, no issues. Just treat like regular body panel.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:38 AM
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I will soon replace factory installed film on my Speciale. Now there are so many brands on the market but I guess the most well known are 3M, XPel, LLumar. So which one is the best?

My dealer recommends LLumar, any feedback?

Also is it be OK to use wax/polish on these films?

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MuratC,

It is okay to wax and polish most paint protection films. However it's very important to note that not all films are created equally. Some films are more durable than others, and as someone mentioned on the thread, some films can even self-heal. Including XPEL ULTIMATE.

Here is a link to a short video of an installation on a 458 Spider that had XPEL ULTIMATE installed in Austin, TX.

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Old 12-29-2014, 03:22 PM
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Hello

You can contact protac in maslak,ferrari dealer works with them,they wrap all kinds of cars including la ferrari.

If you want i can contact them for you
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:36 PM
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Xpel is made by 3M. Everyone has their favorite. Xpel ultimate is up there with self healing, clarity, warranty and non yellowing. Small impacts usually heal in 24 hrs. or less, larger use hot water. I have started using Opti Cares new polish/sealer on the film.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:56 PM
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Xpel is made by 3M. Everyone has their favorite. Xpel ultimate is up there with self healing, clarity, warranty and non yellowing. Small impacts usually heal in 24 hrs. or less, larger use hot water. I have started using Opti Cares new polish/sealer on the film.
docf,

Thank-you for the kind words about XPEL ULTIMATE.

I just wanted to clarify to the forum that XPEL is NOT made by 3M. We have no affiliation with 3M, and haven't since 2007.
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Xpel Ultimate was used on my Speciale.
I have had venture shield, 3M, And Llumar on a number of other vehicles, but so far the least noticeable film has been the Xpel.
The installer used double layers on the high impact locations, and varying thicknesses based on how tight a curve or how much of a compound curve was required.
I had the entire car covered, and it is very difficult to even tell there is a film. It is important that the installer uses adhesion promoter on the edges prone to direct spray at the car wash, and if possible the edges should be rolled over the vehicle edges to reduce edge delamination.
A good installer is just as important as the film itself!
Make sure if you are going to wax the film, not to use any solvent based waxes. I've found that the newer polymer based waxes are a lot safer, and provide a much nicer finish over films. For quick detailing, Plexus plastic polish works really well.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:38 PM
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I've used Xpel for 15 years. They did full wrap on mine and took it to SEMA. Ton of cars done, product pretty amazing now. Had huge speed rock hits on my 599, wife's M3, and my E63S wagon. Zip. Nada. My first Xpel car in 99 was an M5. Hit a buzzard at 150. Dented hood by kidney, but paint perfect. Touchless guy fixed dent and was fine. Product only better now.
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Rear end was bear to do, and it's perfect. Installer is absolutely critical. Speciales have curves and surface changes everywhere. If not done right or film not workable its wrinkly, has gaps, is mess. I can't tell my car has anything on it. Their film is far better than the 3m film they stopped using, it doesn't yellow. My wife's M3 is white, and at 3y out it's great.
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Xpel Ultimate was used on my Speciale.
I have had venture shield, 3M, And Llumar on a number of other vehicles, but so far the least noticeable film has been the Xpel.
The installer used double layers on the high impact locations, and varying thicknesses based on how tight a curve or how much of a compound curve was required.
I had the entire car covered, and it is very difficult to even tell there is a film. It is important that the installer uses adhesion promoter on the edges prone to direct spray at the car wash, and if possible the edges should be rolled over the vehicle edges to reduce edge delamination.
A good installer is just as important as the film itself!
Make sure if you are going to wax the film, not to use any solvent based waxes. I've found that the newer polymer based waxes are a lot safer, and provide a much nicer finish over films. For quick detailing, Plexus plastic polish works really well.
Just my.02
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I'm curious what it costs (approximately) to cover the entire car? I was thinking of just doing the entire front, mirrors, and sills. Maybe I should do the entire car and forget it.

Do you still need to wax the car if it's covered?

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I've used Xpel for 15 years. They did full wrap on mine and took it to SEMA. Ton of cars done, product pretty amazing now. Had huge speed rock hits on my 599, wife's M3, and my E63S wagon. Zip. Nada. My first Xpel car in 99 was an M5. Hit a buzzard at 150. Dented hood by kidney, but paint perfect. Touchless guy fixed dent and was fine. Product only better now.
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:51 PM
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After much research I used Suntek on my entire car, 2015 458 spider, and I am very happy with the results. I considered Expel Ultimate as the alternative self healing film but in the end I felt Suntek was the best choice for me.
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On my cars, used Xpel, 3M, and Suntek, cars are light, medium and darker colors. As mentioned, the key is the preparation. the installer, plus the environment, including temperature of the installation; like a dirty shop in cold the winter. To me, who is sometimes a concours kind of guy, there is little difference with the films. I found the newer 3M film to self healing too.

Why does one film seem better than another over the years? One guy I know was cleaning bugs off his film at a concours event with a dirty towel, rubbing detailing spray in circles. I carefully treat my film like paint, and never clean it when is dry.

Bottom line, if you have an excellent installer and viewed their work, and they recommend, Xpel, then the decision is easy.
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I'm curious what it costs (approximately) to cover the entire car? I was thinking of just doing the entire front, mirrors, and sills. Maybe I should do the entire car and forget it.

Do you still need to wax the car if it's covered?
You don't have to wax the film, but I find that occasional waxing of the film helps to bring out the depth in the paint underneath.
I'm not sure what the costs are elsewhere, but a high quality complete vehicle job, with double layering on the high impact areas, addition of the rear diffuser fins, head lights and mirrors, R & R of the emblems, and wrapping of the seam locations will run around $6,000.00 (CAD) in the Calgary area. It was a four day Job for my car.
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Who would you recommend in Chicago to do the XPEL full coverage for a Speciale? I am having one delivered in Chicago very soon. Thanks.
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Who would you recommend in Chicago to do the XPEL full coverage for a Speciale? I am having one delivered in Chicago very soon. Thanks.
I see that you're located in St. Louis. We have an excellent installer there as well. I've added both to the reply just in case.

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Justin at Clear Advantage
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Rick at Body Skins
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:52 AM
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On my cars, used Xpel, 3M, and Suntek, cars are light, medium and darker colors. As mentioned, the key is the preparation. the installer, plus the environment, including temperature of the installation; like a dirty shop in cold the winter. To me, who is sometimes a concours kind of guy, there is little difference with the films. I found the newer 3M film to self healing too.

Why does one film seem better than another over the years? One guy I know was cleaning bugs off his film at a concours event with a dirty towel, rubbing detailing spray in circles. I carefully treat my film like paint, and never clean it when is dry.

Bottom line, if you have an excellent installer and viewed their work, and they recommend, Xpel, then the decision is easy.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:32 PM
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XPEL no question!!! , just had entire car done.
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I just put the new 3M on my GT3 and it's a great product!....Pro series with a clearcoat....top notch installer and came out great
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