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Can we estimate the total number of Speciales?

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  1. 720

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    #1 720, Mar 29, 2015
    TTN27 and I were curious about this, and he suggested that fchatters might have fairly good information on the number of allocations their particular dealer giving the or would get.

    if we can come up with a reasonable estimate of the number Speciales in the United States, then we can make a better guess about the total that will be made.

    If you have any insights as to the total number of Speciale allocations your dealer has received (or will receive) then post the name of your dealer and your best estimate of their total allocations.

    I'm trying to put together a complete list of authorized Ferrari dealerships in the United States. Here's what I have so far. I'm sure this list has errors and is incomplete, but it's a start. Please let me know if you see any errors or omissions, and I'll correct the list.

    US Ferrari dealerships

    Arizona dealerships
    Scottsdale Ferrari
    Scottsdale, AZ


    California dealerships
    Ferrari of Beverly Hills
    Beverly Hills, CA

    Ferrari of San Diego
    La Jolla, CA

    Ferrari of San Francisco
    Mill Valley, CA

    Ferrari of Newport Beach
    Newport Beach, CA

    Ferrari of Silicon Valley
    Redwood City, CA

    The Ferrari Gallery
    Woodland Hills, CA


    Colorado dealerships
    Ferrari of Denver
    Highlands Ranch, CO


    Florida dealerships
    The Collection
    Coral Gables, FL

    Ferrari of Fort Lauderdale
    Fort Lauderdale, FL

    Ferrari of Central Florida
    Orlando, FL


    Georgia dealerships
    Ferrari of Atlanta
    Roswell, GA


    Illinois dealerships
    Continental Ferrari
    Hinsdale, IL

    Lake Forest Sportscars
    Lake Bluff, IL


    Michigan dealerships
    Cauley Ferrari
    West Bloomfield, MI


    Nevada dealerships
    Penske-Wynn
    Las Vegas, NV


    New York dealerships
    Ferrari of Long Island
    Glen Cove, NY


    North Carolina dealerships
    Foreign Cars Italia
    Greensboro, NC


    Oregon dealerships
    Ron Tonkin Grand Turismo
    Portland, OR


    Pennsylvania dealerships
    Algar Ferrari of Philadelphia
    Rosemont, PA


    Texas dealerships
    Ferrari of Dallas
    Plano, TX

    Ferrari of Houston
    Houston, TX

    Ferrari of San Antonio
    San Antonio, TX


    Utah dealerships
    Ferrari of Salt Lake City
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Not positive, but I think 8 allocatiins


    Virginia dealerships
    Ferrari of Washington
    Dulles, VA


    Washington dealerships
    Ferrari of Seattle
    Seattle, WA
     
  2. ttn27

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    #2 ttn27, Mar 29, 2015
    Rick, thanks for starting this thread. I would also add Ferrari of Austin for a total of 4 dealerships in Texas. Hopefully with the help of everybody here, we would know very close to the exact number of allocations in the US (plus or minus just a few). With this number we can more approximate the total number of Speciale produced worldwide.

    For Ferrari of Houston: about 10 allocations so far (including 2 in June, and I got one of the 2 June allocations). 😊
    July will be the last month of allocation for the Speciale and FoH has not got their July allocation yet, probably next week). So at least for now assuming 1 additional allocation in July for a total of about 11 Speciale for Houston.
     
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    #3 720, Mar 29, 2015
    Thanks Thuan.

    We're off to a slow start, but here's what we have so far:

    Ferrari of Salt Lake City
    8 allocations

    Ferrari of Houston
    11 allocations
     
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    #4 Xcheckme, Mar 29, 2015
    Ferrari of Tampa Bay (same owner as Central FL)
    Ferrari of Palm Beach
     
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    #5 720, Mar 29, 2015
    Thank you :)

     
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    #6 Challenge64, Mar 29, 2015
    Scottsdale Ferrari is at 6 I believe
     
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    #7 Stevenb, Mar 29, 2015
    Auto gallery in woodland hills, Ca do not sell ferraris anymore. I know they had 6 allocations and they got pushed to ferrari beverly hills.
     
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    #8 Rcktrod, Mar 29, 2015
    FOBH has Ferrari of South Bay and Ferrari of LA as well. Some of the Fchatters seem to be quite connected, any way that they could ask a higher up at the factory? Wasn't it around 1,800 Speciales that were going to be made? More than the 360CS but less than the 430 Scuderia.
     
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    #9 720, Mar 29, 2015
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    Revised list of US Ferrari dealerships

    Arizona dealerships
    Scottsdale Ferrari
    (6 allocations)


    California dealerships
    Ferrari of Beverly Hills

    Ferrari of San Diego

    Ferrari of San Francisco

    Ferrari of Los Angeles

    Ferrari of Newport Beach

    Ferrari of Silicon Valley

    Ferrari of South Bay


    Colorado dealerships
    Ferrari of Denver


    Florida dealerships
    The Collection - Coral Gables, FL

    Ferrari of Fort Lauderdale

    Ferrari of Central Florida

    Ferrari of Palm Beach

    Ferrari of Tampa Bay


    Georgia dealerships
    Ferrari of Atlanta


    Illinois dealerships
    Continental Ferrari

    Lake Forest Sportscars


    Michigan dealerships
    Cauley Ferrari


    Nevada dealerships
    Penske-Wynn - Las Vegas, NV


    New York dealerships
    Ferrari of Long Island


    North Carolina dealerships
    Foreign Cars Italia - Greensboro, NC


    Oregon dealerships
    Ron Tonkin Grand Turismo - Portland, OR


    Pennsylvania dealerships
    Algar Ferrari of Philadelphia
    Rosemont, PA


    Texas dealerships
    Ferrari of Austin

    Ferrari of Dallas

    Ferrari of Houston
    11 allocations

    Ferrari of San Antonio


    Utah dealerships
    Ferrari of Salt Lake City
    8 allocations


    Virginia dealerships
    Ferrari of Washington - Dulles, VA


    Washington dealerships
    Ferrari of Seattle
     
  10. 720

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    #10 720, Mar 29, 2015
    That's what James at FoBH told me a year ago "more than Stradales and fewer than Scuderias". My guess is also about 1,800 :)


     
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    #11 ttn27, Mar 29, 2015
    That would be great if we can find out from someone higher up at the factory. However, we were never able to get an exact (or even close to exact number for the Scuderia), so hopefully if we can get a total number of US allocations, we can closely approximate the total worldwide production and compare to that number given by somebody higher up at the factory (assuming someone here can get somebody from the factory who can reveal that number).
    I think July allocation will be the last month allocation, at least at US dealerships (and each dealer should know its July allocation within the next week or so), so it should not be hard to find the total allocation each US dealer receives.
     
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    #12 Challenge64, Mar 30, 2015
    Missed hawaii dealer. JN Exotics
     
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    #13 abz, Mar 30, 2015
    Please add:

    Midwestern Auto Group
    Columbus, Ohio

    I think they received a total of 5 Speciales.
    Will check with my salesman and let you know if different
     
  14. bobbyd

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    #14 bobbyd, Mar 30, 2015
    My estimate (for what it's worth):

    Approx. 40 North American dealerships or so (including Canada).

    An average of 10 - 12 cars per dealership.

    Therefore 400 - 480 cars in NA.

    As NA is roughly 30% of Ferrari's total production, then approx. 1600 total worldwide Speciale's (not including A's).

    Just approximating...
     
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    #15 720, Mar 30, 2015
    That's what TTN27 and I were thinking also. But we were guessing an average of 8-10 Speciales per dealer. Since we're just killing time waiting for our Speciales to arrive (good problem to have for sure) we thought it would be interesting to see if we could get a better estimate of how many Speciales are coming to the US.

    So if anybody has a good estimate about the number of allocations their dealer is getting let us know :)


     
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    #16 720, Mar 30, 2015
    Thanks Al :)

     
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    #17 720, Mar 30, 2015
    Thanks Ron. I thought it would be easy to get a list of US Ferrari dealerships, but when I Googled it I was surprised that it wasn't an easy search.

     
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    #18 greyboxer, Mar 30, 2015
    They are listed at Ferrari.com........obvious place really ?
     
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    #19 720, Mar 30, 2015
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    Jim. Jimmie. Jimbo. Not as easy as you infer. Try it and see what happens :) if you figure an easy way to get a list of all US dealerships let me know.

     
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    #21 shawminator, Mar 30, 2015
    Ferrari of Tampa Bay received 4 Speciale allocations. I received one of them, and my car is currently in production.

    Also, I think the OP speculation that US dealerships on average receive 8-10 Speciales is a bit high. I'll cite the 4 that the Tampa dealership received. I suspect it's closer to 6 averaged across all dealers. If you include the Speciale Apereta (which I did not in my figures above, the allocations seem to be about half of those for the Speciale coupe.
     
  22. MackenzieL

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    #22 MackenzieL, Mar 30, 2015
    I am a new this forum but i saw the 430 scuderia for sale - on this forum - 2009 one owner 25k miles - $315k msrp going for $155k? wow - over 50% off in 6 years?

    will the speciale follow a similar path? 2013/14 speciale sell for $200 in 2019/20?
     
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    #23 Polar Peter, Mar 30, 2015
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    My Speciale is in this week, not sure how many they are getting
     
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    #24 ttn27, Mar 30, 2015
    I counted 36 dealers (are they missing some?)

    +1 . My dealer (Houston) is getting about 11 (10 so far plus +/- 1 for July allocation). So based on the number of dealerships in the US, even at an average of 8 cars per dealer, it should be way less than 350.
     
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