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488 GTO ?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by wab0625, Apr 25, 2017.

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  1. wab0625

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  2. phanliu

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  3. Scraggy

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    No real surprises or on timing, noted less power than non special edition McLaren (720 and likely lighter).

    Be amazed if they use GTO moniker in the near future.
     
  4. Lukeylikey

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    2.7 sec to 60mph. Wonder how it will get the power down? Sounds like the torque is very high - Ferrari's 3.9 litre engine has much higher peak torque available than McLaren's equivalent, which may be what allows the Ferrari to generate a time like this (if correct) compared with the more powerful 720.
     
  5. amenasce

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    Less power and most likely more weight than the 720S. Doesnt bode well for laptimes and such. But it will be sold out so i guess Ferrari doesnt care.
     
  6. j09333

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    They can have all torque and HP as long as power can be delivered to the ground.

    I wonder how...tire grip is at its maximum.

    For Maclaren, they have entry oversteer one has to fight. It can be fun but puts driver on hold through mid corner as one waits for the car to settle from oversteer.

    Ferrari has entry understeer and driver works the way up to exit phase not to overpower the grip.

    It all comes down to personal preferences and for me, I quite don't care about lap times. I care only how car behaves on track and I just prefer Ferrari any day.
     
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  7. islandtrader

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    488 GTO confirmed to be 700hp by a number of articles.
     
  8. greyboxer

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    I'm not surprised by this model but this soon in the 488 production life cycle.
     
  11. markonex

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    700 hp is not credible, at all, too Little improvement, Ferrari will almost surely use GTO moniker since it's a GTB car, remember the 599. FERRARI GTO are always more special than just speciale cars. At least 710-720 PS, a bit more weight than 720, super aero and drive feeling derived from challenge cars. A game changer? Probably enough to make McLaren retrieve it's obsession for competitors. Only doubt is the dilemma Frankfurt 2017 / Paris 2018 release.
     
  12. nads

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    Highly unlikely.....
     
  13. markonex

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    Don't mind the name, I may be wrong, it's important it would be really a racing beast for road. By the way, what name would you like it to have? Let's play with hypotheses. Not considering scuderia, speciale,...maybe the return of challenge stradale? Daytona? Monte Carlo? Or if all goes well, 488 17M? ����
     
  14. xfrgtr

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    #14 xfrgtr, Apr 26, 2017
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    Agree

    The Ferrari 288 GTO is an exotic homologation of the Ferrari 308 GTB.
    The 599 GTB .....599 GTO
     
  15. Traveller

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    I'm wondering whether this car will be the first to have a mild element of hydidisation.....
     
  16. Bas

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    Won't be called GTO, but it's the easiest way to talk about it now (that or 488 Speciale). Convinced they'll drag some name from the past, though. As long as it lives up to expectations :).
     
  17. boxerman

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    Great post, based on practical realities of someoen who may actualy uses the car as designed. Thanks.

    The stats to me are just paper puffery.

    To me it all boils down to weight, how low they can get it. Excess hp just gets bled off by the computer which just steps in the way of overall driving enjoyment.

    Maybe it sounds blasphemous, but a turbo high tq engine would mate well with a return of the stick. maybe not the fastest but certainly the most fun.

    Kinda wish they would do a hardcore, core buyer version, below 2800lbs, stick and manual steering. Your modern F40. Of course one still has to get past the 488 styling.

    Still as others have said, they'll all be sold out so does ferrari really care.
     
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    The thing that matters more, concerning the torque, is te fact that it is not likely it would increase, it is certain that the engine displacement will remain the same, moreover, the current double clutch gearbox of Getrag only supports up to 750 Nm, the Cali T and the 488 are already touching this limit but for very limited time and engine revs range. So I only expect a superior power, less weight and better aero, as 458 Speciale. I'm sure this thread will become super hot in some months, but the car will be not disappointing at all.
     
  19. markonex

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    IMHO not yet, but would be a very welcome surprise. Taking into account the chassis and platform will still be the "old" one.
     
  20. 95spiderman

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    Ferrari limits max torque to only top gears so not sure how to compare their stats to competition.
     
  21. markonex

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    At this stage, only Peter and few other people really know real facts and critical features of the new red razor, obviously the hype and anxiety will reach levels similar to the ones for TDF / 812.
     
  22. Shack

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    Very simple - an answer to the 720S and to make sure McLaren don't "hog the limelight" too long and take too many sales.

    Ferrari's timing as usual is perfect!!.

    Here's my prediction:

    Ferrari will move onto the totally new model quite soon (2019) and this model will be NA/hybrid and destroy anything a turbo car can throw at it (especially in the sound department). This will be early in the 720 lifecycle (and GT2RS lifecycle) and stop McLaren "in its tracks". The 992 from Porsche might be an interesting competitor though.
     
  23. Chicko

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    If Ferrari truly want stand toe to toe with Mclaren in this sector they are going to have to switch to carbon tubs and focus on getting the weight down to around 1200kg...
     
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  24. boxerman

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    Who wants a hybrid, they suck. 1 lap of nurbering and the heavy 918 is spent.

    More pawer is not needed except for paper spec car fans

    Light weight is the way to go.

    When Mclaren does the 720Lt looks like w emay go below 2800lbs.
     
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  25. graphicdisorder

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    If Mclaren truly want to stand with Ferrari they will need to become more reliable and learn how to release cars in such a way they do not fall apart in value.

    Just watched a video of a guy overheating a 675LT on a public road....
     

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