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Possibly looking to trade my High Spec MSO McLaren 12C Coupe for a 458.

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by carbonm, May 23, 2017.

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  1. carbonm

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    #1 carbonm, May 23, 2017
    If anyone may be interested in a potential trade please let me know. Imo i have one of the best/highest spec'ed 12c's. (can share more details if anyone may be interested)
     
  2. SoCal to az

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    #2 SoCal to az, May 23, 2017
    Good luck with the trade but I hate to break it to you that high spec Mclaren's don't mean squat. If you are realistic with your expectations I'm sure you can find a deal but maccas drop like a rock regardless of spec.
     
  3. Az458

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    #3 Az458, May 23, 2017
    If you can PM the info for your car thanks


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  4. carbonm

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    #4 carbonm, May 23, 2017
    wow kinda harsh. OK. I beg to differ, but i guess i didnt expect much love on this fourm.
     
  5. SoCal to az

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    #5 SoCal to az, May 23, 2017
    Sorry. Not trying to be harsh. My apologies if it came across that way. Just being realistic. There have been lots of discussions talking about depreciation here and Mclaren's don't do well.
     
  6. TheMayor

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    #6 TheMayor, May 23, 2017
    To be honest high spec'd 458's are pretty much the same way. A lot of carbon, fancy radios, GPS, and special order paint don't mean much.

    Its service history, mileage, condition, model year and color combo, not necessarily in that order.

    Everything else won't get much in resale.

    McLaren hasn't helped. It seems like they have introduced 20 different model cars since the 12c.
     
  7. RossoNero

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    #7 RossoNero, May 24, 2017

    Spot on - in every market around the world.



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  8. 458italia2014

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    #8 458italia2014, May 24, 2017
    Don't listen to any negativity here, all you need to do is find someone who finds value in the trade. Good luck with it. You should post some pics and specs here for people to read.
     
  9. noone1

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    #9 noone1, May 24, 2017
    I don't think you'll get a trade that is any more valuable than just selling and buying. Can't see what's the be gained by anyone from trading.
     
  10. carbonm

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    #10 carbonm, May 24, 2017
    Thanks.. I'm 50/50 if I even want to trade but never hurts to see. I really think my car is unique and the best spec'ed 12c Ive personally seen. Car is also in warranty and was a certified car with full service records from day 1.

    Hopefully its OK to post a link to to the car here on another forum. I posted a feeler here. (If not ok - just let me know and I'll remove the link)

    Rare MSO 12C w Warranty / Low Miles / Very High Spec / CCB / Elite - GT3 Paint - McLaren Life
     
  11. carbonm

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    #11 carbonm, May 24, 2017
    My car I believe checks all those boxes. complete service history since day 1, excellent condition, relatively low miles 8k, color combo and options best I've seen + certified and still under warranty + MSO which is like an "individual spec from factory" / think Porsche paint to sample or BMW individual etc.
     
  12. carbonm

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    #12 carbonm, May 24, 2017
    your probably right. but it never hurst to ask. only gain would be cutting the dealer out of the loss in trade in / repurchase. think of it as both parties getting a price closer to private party value than trade in value.
     
  13. Cyrek

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    #13 Cyrek, May 24, 2017
    Don't forget Steering Wheel and possibly Seats should be added to that 458 list of musts...imo


    :)
     
  14. noone1

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    #14 noone1, May 24, 2017
    I don't follow. You sell your car privately and buy his privately. Why is there a dealer involved?
     
  15. carbonm

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    #15 carbonm, May 24, 2017
    No just a direct trade with +/- for value difference ... my point being you save $ rather than doing a trade in for a lower value and rebuying another car.
     
  16. vjd3

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    #16 vjd3, May 24, 2017
    Most states at the dealer you save the sales tax on the trade value registering the new car -- CA may be an exception -- but here you're talking $14k on a $200k car. I know dealers who will do the paperwork for a small fee that is dwarfed by the sales tax you would pay otherwise.
     
  17. 2006m5

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    #17 2006m5, May 24, 2017
    How much do you want straight up sale?
     
  18. AlfistaPortoghese

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    #18 AlfistaPortoghese, May 24, 2017
    This. With mileage coming last.

    Carbon fiber steering wheel, carbon fiber racing seats and carbon fiber shift paddles really emphasize the interior's racing look. But it's very personal and subjective.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  19. noone1

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    #19 noone1, May 24, 2017
    Yeah, I still don't get it. Aside from any potential sales tax savings from a dealer trade, what's the difference?

    You sell your car to Person A privately.
    You buy a car from Person B for $15K over what you sold for.

    or

    You trade cars with Person B and give them $15K.

    Seems the same to me. In both cases, you end up with the same car, get rid of your car, and you owe $15K in cash or whatever the balance may be.

    Why do you feel the only choice is to trade to a dealer for less?
     
  20. carbonm

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    #20 carbonm, May 24, 2017
    your right I'm perfectly fine with selling just outright...then finding a replacement.
     
  21. carbonm

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    #21 carbonm, May 24, 2017
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    more details...

    This is an extremely high spec'ed car with the most desirable colors and options, with warranty, low miles, and many additional extras bringing total retail value to over 340k.

    Spec:

    Factory Spec:
    2012 MP4-12C - ~8k miles
    Certified w Warranty (fully transferable) through Aug 2017
    All service and paperwork since day 1 available.

    Elite Pearl White - $5,140
    Body Color Splitter $690
    Carbon Turning Vanes $2,860
    Carbon Fiber Engine Covers $2,860
    Carbon Fiber Engine Bay $4,000
    Sports Exhaust $5,430
    Stealth Pack $1,030
    Lightweight Forged Wheels $4,000
    Carbon Ceramic Brakes - Red Calipers $14,280
    Alcantara & Leather Interior - $2,290
    Harrisa Red / Carbon Black
    Color Coordinated Steering Wheel $520
    Carbon Fiber Interior Upgrade $4,000
    Electric & Heated Memory Seats - $ 3,430
    Carbon Fiber Sill Panels $2,860
    Carbon Fiber Wheel Arches $2,860
    IRIS Upgrade w Meridian Surround Sound System $4,795
    Parking Sensors (Front & Rear) $2,060
    McLaren Branded Floor Mat Set $400
    Car Cover $580
    Litium Battery Charger
    Additional by McLaren Special Operations: $8,907
    - MSO Roof – Satin Black
    - MSO Rear Bumper – GT3 Style Graphics
    Transport $2,400
    Total Price: $304,572


    Additional OEM Options (added post purchase)
    - Stealth Front and Rear Badges in Carbon Fiber
    - OEM Diamond Cut Forged Wheels ($16k w receipts)
    - Brand New Extra Key (programmed but never used still in plastic)

    Aftermarket (Prices are for parts only – not counting install):

    - Integrated Passport 9500ci Radar $2000 + $500 for rearview install screen

    - MA Carbon CF Rearview mirror with integrated radar display - $650
    https://www.macarbon.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=781&category_id=264&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=334&lang=en&redirected=1&Itemid=334

    - MC Carbon kick panels in carbon fiber - $475
    https://www.macarbon.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=796&category_id=264&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=334&lang=en&redirected=1&Itemid=334

    - MA Carbon Carbon fiber trim over instrument cluster - $750
    https://www.macarbon.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=790&category_id=264&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=334&lang=en&redirected=1&Itemid=334

    - MA Carbon Carbon extended center console trim - $225
    https://www.macarbon.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=778&category_id=264&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=334&lang=en&redirected=1&Itemid=334

    - MA Carbon Extended Shift Paddles - 'Nicoles' - $675 - https://www.macarbon.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=776&category_id=264&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=334&lang=en&redirected=1&Itemid=334

    - Clear Paint Protection Film - $2,600 (Full hood, front bumper and all impact areas)

    Key Service Items Done (all common things that can go wrong updated by McLaren):
    - IRIS2 Added
    - New HVAC control screens to the newest style
    - New Clamps for all four coolant lines
    - Latest software installed w HP increase w paperwork to support
    - All service done at dealer

    Paperwork:
    - Clean carfax/autocheck
    - All service history since day 1
    - Warranty Information Card

    Misc. Items:
    - Includes car charger
    - All books (Brand New)
    - Original Winder Sticker
    - Car Cover
    - OEM Fire Extinguisher

    Condition:
    - Near perfect inside and out

    Car is located north of Chicago, IL.
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  22. tres55

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    #22 tres55, May 24, 2017
    $168k seems fair.

    That's one of the nicest spec 12C's I've seen.

    Good luck in your search for the 458 replacement. :)
     
  23. carbonm

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    #23 carbonm, May 25, 2017
    Just tried to PM you my contact info but your box is full.
     
  24. carcommander

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    #24 carcommander, May 25, 2017
    It doesn't hurt to ask but I would just sell the 12C and then buy the exact 458 you want. Plenty for sale.
     
  25. carbonm

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    #25 carbonm, May 25, 2017
    your probably right. open to outright sale. (i absolutely love this car in this spec... but also want to try a ferrari). wish i could have both!
     
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