599 GTO test mule?

SouthernThunder · #1 12-13-2010, 07:12 PM

It was spotted my marchettino a couple of days ago testing.
Possibly a test mule for the 599 successor? He said it had no ferrari badges, different led headlights,and raw front and rear air intakes,different exhaust, etc.
What do you guys think? Video link down below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc_5t...layer_embedded

**Stefan_009** · #2 12-13-2010, 07:17 PM

Headlights look like California ones, probably just temporary although I'm sure the replacement will have LED lights of some sort. Also appears to have a double-clutch trans, this car is going to be crazy fast.

**Hawkeye** · #3 12-13-2010, 07:28 PM

Thought I heard the DCT as well

Tifosi15 · #4 12-13-2010, 07:31 PM

It sounds really beefy, it's got a full tone to it. I can't wait to see what comes of it, direct injection, dual clutch, and still 12 cylinders it sounds like. Awesome

MarchettinoYT · #5 12-13-2010, 07:39 PM

Thanks for posting my video. The spot is not 2 days old, it's very fresh, i took the video this afternoon. I think this is one of the initial tests for the 599 replacement. When Ferrari made the first tests for the 458 they used the F430s with under the 458 mechanical components, maybe they're doing the same.

Tifosi15 · #6 12-13-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchettinoYT

Thanks for posting my video. The spot is not 2 days old, it's very fresh, i took the video this afternoon. I think this is one of the initial tests for the 599 replacement. When Ferrari made the first tests for the 458 they used the F430s with under the 458 mechanical components, maybe they're doing the same.

Ferrari tends to do that as do many other manufacturers. Your videos are very impressive Marco

**M-individual** · #7 12-14-2010, 02:53 AM

... Interesting. Car is equipped with DCT imo.

Marchettinno ... whenever you post vids you have my full attention

MarchettinoYT · #8 12-14-2010, 01:28 PM

Thanks guys

**omd78** · #9 12-14-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchettinoYT

Thanks for posting my video. The spot is not 2 days old, it's very fresh, i took the video this afternoon. I think this is one of the initial tests for the 599 replacement. When Ferrari made the first tests for the 458 they used the F430s with under the 458 mechanical components, maybe they're doing the same.

Or the 612 replacement..?

Gr. Martin

**tazandjan** · #10 12-14-2010, 04:36 PM

Martin- Probably not the 612 replacement chassis, because that will have a considerably longer wheelbase than the 599, I think. 599 wheelbase 2750 mm, 612 wheelbase 2900 mm. 150 mm longer is a little less than 6" (5.91").

They sure are getting big. The Maranello only had a 2500 mm wheelbase and the 456 was 2600 mm and that is a 2+2.

Taz
Terry Phillips

SouthernThunder · #11 12-14-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M-individual

... Interesting. Car is equipped with DCT imo.

Marchettinno ... whenever you post vids you have my full attention

agreed..sounds similar to a 458 shift

arhimede · #12 12-14-2010, 07:14 PM

There's no reason for that to be a 612 replacement. That test mule correspond to initial testing phase. When they test gearbox, engine and other important components on to the last car base. So the car looks like a old generation with minimal changes. At this step is this test mule for 599 successor.

Next phase is the prototype car close to the real production car with as much new components as they can put in to test. It look like a heavy disguise camouflage car. In this phase was seen 612's successor.

The last phase is a almost lane production car almost 100% the car that will be released. Few things will be changed from this point. It obvious look like a finished car with camo over its body. We probably see this tipe of car being 612 successor on the next period.

The 599 successor will be for sure an evolution. just like the 575 was for the 550. More like a facelift.

Im sure the car will be faster or close to 599 gto.

**Stefan_009** · #13 12-14-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by arhimede

Im sure the car will be faster or close to 599 gto.

It's going to be the same story as 458 vs. Scuderia, the replacement will be faster in lap times and 0-60 etc.. but people will argue it's not as visceral and raw as the GTO/Scud. If no major breakthroughs occur in the near future I have a feeling Ferrari is going to hit a strange plateau where all cars will be too subdued and they will have to start taking steps backwards. I certainly hope that is not the case.

**Ferrarista3** · #14 12-15-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by arhimede

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The 599 successor will be for sure an evolution. just like the 575 was for the 550. More like a facelift.

Ferrari already announced that the 599, unlike the Maranello, will not be facelifted/updated. It will be replaced by a completely different car at some point in 2012.

They're going to have to adopt some interesting solutions in order to respect future emission standards. Chances are that they will use hybrid technology, DFI, start&stop, KERS etc...

**deppi0** · #15 12-15-2010, 03:51 AM

Difficult to tell much regarding how the styling will be but the sound is intoxicating!
Great video

**VIZSLA** · #16 12-15-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tazandjan

Martin- Probably not the 612 replacement chassis, because that will have a considerably longer wheelbase than the 599, I think. 599 wheelbase 2750 mm, 612 wheelbase 2900 mm. 150 mm longer is a little less than 6" (5.91").

They sure are getting big. The Maranello only had a 2500 mm wheelbase and the 456 was 2600 mm and that is a 2+2.

Taz
Terry Phillips

The 612 replacement is due to show in March. It would be testing in a much more production ready guise at this stage.
With the 458 we saw a huge number of "leaked" photos in the run up. With the 612 almost none. Is security suddenly that much better? Interest that much lower? Or is it just not part of Ferrari's marketing plan this time around to tease?

**tazandjan** · #17 12-15-2010, 10:22 AM

Carlo- I agree. The HGTE and GTO were the M versions of the 599. With production beginning in 2006, the car will be 7 years old by the time replacements start being delivered. Plus with a new engine with direct injection and a new transmission, I am betting they also follow the California and 458 lead with a multi-link rear suspension.

So a new car is in the works. If they do to the engine what they did to the 458, a simplistic formula of 6.0/4.5 x 562 gives 749 hp. Leaves room for an M version later with 800 or so hp. Need that to keep up with Lamborghini.

Taz
Terry Phillips

**TrojanHorse** · #18 12-15-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by arhimede

The 599 successor will be for sure an evolution. just like the 575 was for the 550. More like a facelift.

Im sure the car will be faster or close to 599 gto.

It may indeed be an evolution and possibly as fast--at least nominally--but I guarantee it'll never be a "GTO"

**Drive550PFB** · #19 12-15-2010, 11:22 AM

As far as I can tell, this is a GTO body with a few modifications.

Why do you guys think that this is a test mule for the 599 replacement?

arhimede · #20 12-15-2010, 11:59 AM

because its sounds different, so both the engine and the gearbox changed. SO it has different engine and gearbox.

Also the headlights are from california.......

TrojanHorse@ Its just me but I think ferrari could build a better succesor for 599 than gto is.