Engine system failure warning in 612

I've gotten that message. It usually happens if I hit the start button before the computers are fully up and running. If I wait for a few seconds after turning the key on, so that the gauges are all stable, etc. then hit the start, it's not an issue.

 

I've had same issue. Try keeping the tank above 1/2 full. Seems to help.

 

Had the gas cap issue a couple of times. It clears by itself eventually.

 

many of the 612's will have fuel level sensor errors. there is an updated sensor to resolve these.

 

I've had similar issues and realize that it depends where I fill up gas.

Some gasoline is just not up to par for these cars & it seems the computer just reflects it with the idiot lights on the dash- Assuming there is no light for 'bad gas', the engine issue light seems to be the cars manner to let you know that the engine isn't happy...

 

Don't you just love the overly dramatic warnings in these cars?

 

This happened to me a couple of times too on my GTO. Later, I found out from the dealer that it might happen if the fuel filler cap is not close properly. Close it tight and restart the car and it should be fine. Hope this works on your car also.

 

I had the same issue yesterday Happening to my 2004 612 Scaglietti with just 22,000kms on the clock - last major service 12 months/1500kms ago.

We were driving slow in 6th gear (app. 110 km/h) due to cold weather (7 degree Celsius) and rainy roads.

All over sudden the e s f w warning came on at 1/2 full tank. It cam on and went off again. Today it came again after five minutes and stayed.

Car drives normal, idels well, oil presure perfect, low oil&water temp.

Could it be a catalytic converter Problem, too? Maybe too cold, low revs - wrong measure of air/CO mix???
Any other suggestions?

It seems it is a bit of a common problem for 612s...

 

Hello,
searched a bit "at the neighbors" - and found this on engine control system failure warnings:
Cutt-off battery and try to see if the system resets.

" If you replace it, the technician, or you, will turn the battery disconnect switch to off during the replacement. That should reset all those problems. Then turn off A/C, radio etc, ignition to ON for 30 seconds, ignition OFF for 30 seconds. Ignition ON and wait for check ok, start car, and let idle for 10 minutes with no input. Drive gently for 20 minutes and everything should be back to normal"

Anyone agree with this?
Or is disconnecting the battery causing more problems?

 

licodix- That is how to do it. It does not mean you should do it, or if you do it, your problem will be solved.

 

This engine failure sign drives me crazy... After fully refueling the 612 - it went off.
After another 100km it starts to re-apear and gets off again.
Was there an update with this fuel (level?) sensors?
It is a shame to have these issues on such a wonderful car..
Any advice?

 

Yes, there was a known problem with the fuel sensors, and yes, there is an update. I think it might even be a campaign, in other words they should do it for free... at least that was the case in the US.

 

So what was the actual code? The 612 CEL is really a scary *****, isn't it? Like a "World is Ending" placard. I've seen a couple on my new-to-me 612. We pulled the codes and they're nothing that would be unexpected from a succession of owners that didn't want to spend money on a car. A good service is all she needs, but there was one code we couldn't figure out, 1614. Anybody have any clue on that one? There's a 575 code for low voltage ECU bearing that number so that's our best guess at the moment.

 

P1614 normally related to circuitry for key verification/immobilizer/security on most cars I've seen. Could be different on f-car though lol If you reset it, will it come back?

 

That would actually make sense, set the alarm off. Josh at ECS couldn't come up with that. I don't know if it'll come back, but I have set it off once again since clearing, so maybe. Will let you know. Not having Josh do the work, decided on FOW. Will ask them to save whatever codes they pull.

 

P1614 in the 575M, which has the same engine, is a LH Bank ECU internal error. Corrective action is to use an SD3 to clear the error and check for correct operation. If the error persists, replace the ECU.

Has nothing to do with the alarm circuit.

 

Okay, so Josh was right.

 

Bob- If you are talking about Josh at ECS, yes, as a pro, he usually is correct and really knows his Ferraris.

 

He was actually rude with me last week, so my opinion of him has taken a giant nose dive recently, but up until then I'd heard mostly rave reviews. Heard one horror story about a corvette, but haven't heard anything rough about his work on Ferrari's. He's very young, very cocky. I liked that. I liked him. But I won't be doing business with him anymore. The car is at Ferrari of Washington instead, parts on order from Ricambi.

That actually brings up another question. The rear tie rods are loose and will need replacing in 4-5000 miles, but I've just heard this is a very normal problem and I'll need to do them again and again if I keep the car for years. So the question is should I just hang onto the tie rods I have coming from Ricambi for 2-3k more miles before throwing them on?

 

How many miles are on your 612?

 

Just approaching 15,000.

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If you don't have misfire, I wouldn't replace ECU, it is probably well over $2k.

 

We pulled a couple codes for misfires as well.