All, I am considering buying a late 2004 612 F1A. It has a broken reverse lever, that is, you do not have to lift the lever to engage reverse gear. My question is: how much of an issue is this? Is this an irritant or a more substantial issue? I understand this is common on 612 F1As. How worried should I be about it? Many thanks.
You don't touch the lever when driving, so in theory this shouldn't be an issue. However, it could make it easy to accidentally nudge into reverse. It would also affect the resell value unless you manage to get it fixed.
Dumb question. How do you get the car in reverse with a broken reverse lever? EDIT: My beautiful '05 612 is for sale and doesn't have a broken reverse lever. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/441355-2005-612-scaglietti-blue-over-tan.html
For me it would be an irritant because I want everything to function properly on my car. However, it is not a substantial issue. Reverse cannot be engaged unless your foot is on the brake. So even if you accidently hit the lever and move it into R while you are driving, that gear will not engage. Bob, his issue is that he doesn't have to LIFT the lever to engage reverse, but simply slide it back.
Broken reverse levers are not uncommon, as the device seems quite fragile, IMO. This was done on my '07 612 HGTS - thankfully, prior to me purchasing it. And, it is not a cheap fix. According to the repair bill, the replacement involves the Knob and F1 Gearbox Control. Cost was $5,109.49 for parts + $300 for Labor = Total: $5,409.49 USD The work was done last year at CA Ferrari dealer, I believe. Yet another reason to try and hunt down a MANUAL instead.
I think this came up last year as the lever is similar but not identical to the earlier F1 - at the time I recall it was not a separate (cheap & easily changed) part - you might want to ask Ricambi if Hills do one yet - the complete new unit shows at Eurospares for USD 1500 / £ 900 approx
Hill Engineering makes a reverse lever repair part for the 360 and 575M, but it does not work for the F1A system fitted to the Superamerica and 612. Probably worth a couple of 612 owners' time to contact Paul Hill and see if one is in the works so he knows there is demand.
I followed Taz advice(thank you!), and contacted Hill eng. . According to their feedback, 612 aftermarket reverse lever is being developed and will be ready for commerce within some weeks. I'm getting it Ricardo Enviado do meu iPhone usando o Tapatalk
Thanks for the heads-up and please update us once the Hill Eng developed product is installed, in terms of how well it works and the price.
Terry, I can fix the SA f-1 reverse lever if anyone needs it. I dont know if the 456 is the same but I could expect we could fix that one too... Scott
I do not believe F1 was ever available for the 456 (or 456M) - Just manual or GM sourced 4-speed automatic.
The 599 had the new "F1 Superfast" system, which I believe improves over the "F1/A" by the use of a twin-disc single clutch system that allows for smoother shifting. The F12 has a DCT.
I believe all 599 have buttons to select forward or reverse. 612 have the small lever to select the direction of movement. To reverse, driver should pull up and back... Since the lever mechanism is very fragile and some drivers are bodybuilders, these mechanisms tend to crack.... So instead of needing to be pulled up and back (for safety), they only need to be pulled back. I think Ferrari only sells the complete module. Hill Eng is developing a stronger part that will allow us to repair the broken mechanism. Enviado do meu iPhone usando o Tapatalk
