Hello to all, The Ferrari Classische documents of the 599 GTO i want to buy are lost :-( I was told it is possible to order a new one, does anyone have an experience ordering a new Classische book from Ferrari and if yes, how long it takes and how much it cost ! Big thanks for your answers.
$500.00 +/- 3-6 Months You would need to go through your local Ferrari Dealer Service Department. If you need help, PM me. S
Really? When I bought my GTO from Ferrari Dallas a few months ago it did not have the Classiche book. I was told by your dealership that it was not possible to replicate.
Does this require a thorough reinspection of the car (with labor charge as if you are doing classiche certification for an older car such as an F40 for example) before they can reissue the classiche certification book?
Not to my knowledge. It will be back dated to when the inspection WAS performed and pages labled " Duplicate "
So what happens when the car is more than 10 or 15 years old and you lose the certificate at that time, will Ferrari issue you a duplicate certificate anyway with just a fee or do they require the car to undergo a detailed inspection by the service department before they will reissue the classiche certificate?
Hello all, I initiated this thread, and here is my opinion : - not having the original Classische book is a serious issue. - replacing it by a duplicate is slightly better, but it will be always a duplicate. - most of us are planning to keep the GTO for years, Classische book will be very important in 10/20 years. So if you didn't get it when you bought the car, bad luck and you should complain to your dealer. If you lost it, also bad luck and you should ask for a duplicate. If you don't want to pay 1500/2000 USD for a duplicate i think this is a mistake. Last but not least, the 599 GTO is THE ONLY modern Ferrari with the Classische certificate - I believe this is not only marketing ;-) I am actually looking for a GTO with the certificate, most of GTO's on the market are missing it. Hard to find one with the complete documentation. But i found one ;-)
You can always pay to have it reinspected and a new report done. It typically costs about $5000 or so for a modern Ferrari. It's really easy to do. I never understood why Ferrari did a Classiche when it was new. After all, the report only certifies that the car is unmodified just as it left the factory. It does not talk about condition or maintenance, missing manuals, keys, etc. Doing a Classiche at the time it left the factory is redundant in my opinion. Having the original Classiche binder is nice but it does not mean that the car is still in original condition. It could of been modified right after the car was delivered. It's a nice piece for your bookshelf but it probably doesn't change the value of the car significantly. Therefore a reprint is basically the same as having the original. Having it redone may be more valuable in some people's eyes. Getting the owners gifts is much cooler in my opinion. There was a 1/43 lost wax model for the GTO, Aperta, and 16M and a special brochure. You can find them every once in a while on Ebay.
I cannot believe how good Ferrari is at picking peoples pockets. It's mind blowing. They classische a brand spanking new car? It's not even a classic yet. What a cash grab.
Buyers of a brand new La Ferrari also receive a Classiche Book. Have seen several such cases. Marcel Massini
I don't think this is picking people's pockets, i personaly believe it add value to the car. Not that much, but as it belongs to the car this is making it unique !
Is it "picking peoples pockets " when it's included with the car , the client does not pay extra for it? S
Your opinion. As Classiche has become more widely understood, the prestige of it has worn off, and many have concluded otherwise. It may marginally facilitate a sale or increase the transaction price, and that's fine. Does it increase the transaction price materially? I rather doubt it in this case. A modern 599GTO? It is what it is. I wouldn't be so hung up on it. CW
I think it's quite the contrary. In 20 years a document certifying that the car was to factory spec when it was essentially will be meaningless to a prospective buyer. I imagine they'll want a recent Classische oro some such thing.
Nothing about Ferrari is free. IMHO the 599 is an obtuse cash grab. Almost as bad as lamborghini with thier never ending gallardo speacial editions.
What does that mean?! Isn't every car produced by every manufacturer a cash grab, thats the industry business model.
Fact is, SpA declared itself to be the arbiter what a "real" Ferrari was out of the blue. It shows up unannounced declaring some cars certifiable and others not. And, determining what could or couldn't participate in the Historic Challenge. Thus, creating (and deleting) value for owners. There are also several stories of cars that got cert that should not have. And, have you paid attention to what happened to the Historic Challenge at least in part as a result? Then, add the fact that unless a dealer submits a minimum number of certification applications per period, they're fined. Then, add the fact that they have taken a very off-putting posture when it comes to bringing cars current, saying they are taking cars back to "as original" with no regard for history. As if they know the history (or cared about it) after it left the factory! The, add the fact that they charge on a sliding scale (based on what they say the value is). I could go on an on, but the fact is that Classiche is a clever marketing gimmick. It evaluates a moment in the car's time, five minutes after which, they have no idea happens. It's a vanity-based revenue stream. Not an exchange for value, in most cases. CW
Personally I would rather have the history a historic Ferrari documented by Mr Massini as to me that to me much more sought after document.
