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612 with 3 pedals

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  1. SAVANTAUTO

    SAVANTAUTO Karting

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    Was wondering if anyone here can verify how many 612 Scags were made with 3 pedals?
    I did not do a search on this so if it had been discussed my apologies.

    Thanks
     
  2. southnc

    southnc Formula 3

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    There are "special" members is this forum who keep a very formal list of rare Ferraris, including their VIN numbers. Hopefully, one of them will chime in.

    From what I understand, about 10% of the 3,000+ Scags were manual. Hence, about 300 or so. The percentage is far less on F430 and 599 models.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Adam- 10% is a good estimate for both the 612 and F430. Probably about half that for the 599, or even less. We know there were 3025 612s built, but I have not seen good figures on the F430 or 599 yet. My estimate on the latter would be around 4000-5000.
     
  4. SAVANTAUTO

    SAVANTAUTO Karting

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    Thanks to all. I know the 3 pedal cars are quite rare. The 430's and 599's for sure.
     
  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    There are probably 1500 or so three pedal F430s. There were at least 257 RHD UK F430s. If there were over 300 three pedal 599s total, I would be surprised.
     
  6. ajyiii

    ajyiii Formula Junior
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    Well I have researched the hell out of this, having bought both a three pedal 599 and three pedal 612...... and every (intelligent) resource pretty much comes to the same conclusion which is that there are 50-75 three pedal 599s, 250-300 there pedal 612s and roughly 1250-1500 430s (coupes and cons combined).
     
  7. Dr.Faris

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    Intresting , i'd love the 612 with 3 pedals
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Andrew- And nobody has any real numbers except for total 612s at 3025 and UK registrations for F430s showing 15.7% three pedals, 296 out of 1874.
     
  9. flumpy

    flumpy Formula Junior

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    What about RHD manual 612's? Now that is a rare car. I was told that no manual cars went to Australia, one to Singapore, but maybe as many as 12 or so to the UK. But it is so difficult to get accurate info, would Ferrari themselves ever publish these figures if asked? Where would you start?
     
  10. AndrewJM

    AndrewJM Formula Junior

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    This one was on eBay a week or two ago... not sure if it sold (Willhoit doesn't update his site very often, but usually posts cars for sale on eBay continuously until they sell). If it did sell, I wonder how close the sale price was to the asking price. Perhaps values of manual 612's are higher than I realized?

    Willhoit inventory Porsche, Ferrari, Sports car
     
  11. 355dreamer

    355dreamer F1 World Champ
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    Still available.
     
  12. AndrewJM

    AndrewJM Formula Junior

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    ^Saw that... must have just come back up last night.
     
  13. Statler

    Statler F1 World Champ

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    uh oh. I feel my wallet getting lighter. This is the unicorn for which I have been looking.
     
  14. flumpy

    flumpy Formula Junior

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    Get it bought!!!!
     
  15. SAVANTAUTO

    SAVANTAUTO Karting

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    I am a big fan of Michael Willhoit.
     
  16. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    Nice looking car and love the stick but does it look lowered? Seems weird for a 612. Maybe its just the angles of the pictures. Seems like a high price for an early car with "a lot" (in Ferrari land 20k miles is a lot but I don't think its a lot). Anyway if the car is legit, its hard to argue against TDF/ Cuoio and stick and 4 seats- bring the wife and kids!
     
  17. ajyiii

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    #17 ajyiii, Jan 31, 2015
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  18. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The Willhoit car was built in CY04 and even has the 50 Years of Chinetti and Ferrari in the US emblem.
     
  19. AndrewJM

    AndrewJM Formula Junior

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    The lower skirts were painted to match the body... I think that may be what is making it look lower than stock.
     
  20. AndrewJM

    AndrewJM Formula Junior

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  21. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Andrew- 10% is probably a good estimate until we get more complete numbers.
     
  22. Ferrari Huracan

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    Let me know Andrew if you are ready t sell your cars :)
     
  23. blazing928s4

    blazing928s4 Rookie

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    Australian ad on carsales; 2004 Black/tan 19,000km, AUD$199,000
    ad says only 3 were brought into Australia, but not sure if it is Oz delivered.

    2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
     
  24. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    All you need is the VIN. If the last letter in the VIN is a D, she is Australian market, if a C she is UK spec. Incidentally, not directly relevant, but no three pedal 575Ms were imported directly with Australian specs. All were F1.
     
  25. flumpy

    flumpy Formula Junior

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    This car has now sold.
     

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