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  1. er72

    er72 Formula Junior

    Aug 16, 2008
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    Eugene
    #1 er72, Nov 10, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    I have a 2007 612 Scaglietti that I use as a daily driver. Recently, I started getting the following transmission error messages almost every time I start the car and sometimes while driving.

    The car drives and shifts fine (except that manual shifting is not possible when the error message is on) and the errors disappear spontaneously within 30-45 seconds. I sent the car to Miller Motorsports in CT for diagnostics and they were unable to find any problems. They said that there were no codes in the car's memory and the error does not occur if the car is started with the SD3 reader connected. Clutch is at 60% and all the fluid levels are OK.

    Has anyone seen this before or has any suggestions on what to do?

    Thanks in advance
    Eugene
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  2. actwon

    actwon Rookie

    Apr 29, 2010
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    Eugene, I had a similar issue in my e-gear murcielago. Except that my car wouldn't shift after driving it a few miles. It was intermittent as well. The culprit was the potentiometer shift sensor for the e-gear (or F1) actuator. Maybe that is the same culprit for your car. The only reason I'm saying this is that Magnetti makes the selespeed actuators for Lamborghini and Ferrari. Hope that gives you another reference point.

    Nathan


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  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 tazandjan, Nov 10, 2016
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    Eugene- First thing to do with an F1 problem (besides having SD3 diagnosis done), is to have the fluid changed, system bled, and PIS reset. Should be done every 3 years, at any rate, which was Ferrari's last recommendation for F1 systems..
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  4. er72

    er72 Formula Junior

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    Thank you all for advice. I will update the thread with any news
     
  5. cam612

    cam612 Karting

    Jul 22, 2014
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    UK
    I had a similar problem with my 612. Intermittent "transmission failures". It was the potentiometers. When replaced all was well. Thankfully not an expensive problem to fix.
     
  6. superdoug

    superdoug Rookie

    Feb 12, 2016
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    My 612 has only done 4500 miles and I have done 3000 of those this year. I had this fault just after getting it and it would not select reverse, it cleared by itself. I took it to my local Ferrari dealership (Edinburgh) to have it checked over. They said nothing was recorded and it would probably just be a gremlin.
    It happened to me again at about 4000 miles when I had parked face in to a wall as I went to the ATM. That was quite embarrassing.
    A gent in an old fiat van that was parked nearby came out and said he used to work in the old Ferrari dealership in Edinburgh, was it an F1 gearbox, it is. He said this was a common problem.
    He gave me a hand to push it backwards so I could get out and then the fault went away. I decided not to spend another £200 for nothing. It is away for the winter and I will see how it goes next year.
    I will check to find out about your fix though.
     
  7. er72

    er72 Formula Junior

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    Just saw this old thread that I started. Eventually, the problem turned out to be F1 gearbox control. Once it was replaced, the problem went away.
     
  8. cam612

    cam612 Karting

    Jul 22, 2014
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    Did you resolve your problem superdoug?
     
  9. onslow99

    onslow99 Rookie

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  10. swiss612

    swiss612 Karting

    May 10, 2016
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    It started to appear after my F1 fluid change, the garage overfilled the fluid, the reason I know is that it created a spill around the gearbox starting from the filling cap
    I guess it could also be your F1 level, likely too high or too low. Or spilled oil on the connectors that creates shorts...
    Take out the left rear wheel and look though the hole in the cast aluminium body connector, you ll see the F1 tank, and also if it is wet or not
    The F1 tank has a level indicator but I am not sure if it displays too high or just low level
     
  11. JohnBradleyDaniels

    Oct 16, 2011
    136
    Spartanburg SC
    I've found that mine almost does it once heat soaked. the US 612's have 6 catalysts. I'm taking it to a Ferrari specialist in town, before the SE Biltmore Gathering to see if it just needs a fluid change and some sensor replacements or adjustments. I'm also looking into getting the Super Sprint catless headers back to my Tubi's.
     

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