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CTEK Battery Tender Question (picture attached)

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  1. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    #1 Jkay, Feb 13, 2017
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    Just got my charger and hooked it up to the 599 in the boot (rear)

    Shouldn't I be getting a light indicating whether the battery is flat (!), half full or full ?

    All I have is a light seemingly showing it's connected to the car

    I'm probably missing something really stupid and obvious but can't figure what

    Thanks

    Edited to add: in the above pic it's connected to mains power (on) and connected to battery
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  2. mike32

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    Yes, You would expect to see 1 of the lights on- turn the ignition on and see if the charger conne tion warning comes on. That will tell you the system has detected the charger, if it does not it might be your plug connection. I am talking from a 430 experience so slightly different.
     
  3. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    Thanks Mike I shall have a go and see what happens
     
  4. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    #4 Jkay, Feb 13, 2017
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    It shows that the car knows charger is connected

    Still same

    I've since googled more for some answers and the charger could possibly be faulty. Just got the charger today as well bugger
     
  5. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

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    Pity u cannot connect it to a known charged battery, is the charger new ?
    Is that one the 0.8 amp output type, ok to float charge but ctek do a 5 amp version which is a lot better
    Put a voltmeter on the charger output to see if it has any output. Only other thing to note, these will not charge a fully flat battery, it needs to sense volts so it knows where it is and what to do.
    You can try conne ting up a conventional charger for a few hours then go back to this ferrari one
     
  6. glob1971

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    A friend had same issue and had it replaced by Ferrari.
     
  7. itsablurr

    itsablurr Formula 3

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    I've had a number of Ctek chargers with issues connecting and charging, across a variety of cars. I believe I'm on my third in the past couple of years. They seem to be sensitive to the order in which they are connected to the charge point, and powered on, with whatever tech the units are using to 'sense' a battery is there to be charged.
     
  8. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    Got the charger today (used) and connected it to the car first then mains. No idea if it's the 0.8 amp output type.

    Battery is ok tho and not flat. My 599 is going into the dealer Tomorrow for a new key to be ordered so I'll get them to have a look.

    If the charger is indeed faulty I'll just have to purchase another. Annoying as I only just got this one today after waiting a week or two
     
  9. mike32

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    It looks like the 0.8 amp type, id label on the unit tells you. A better one is the ctek mxs 5.0 and it comes with some eyelet connectors you can wire up permanent to the battery or else where, you can also get an extension cable so you can run it to where you want in the car. A new ctek is a lot cheaper than a used one with ferrari on it, yet all made by ctek in sweden.
     
  10. ar4me

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    There are instructions on here how to make a pig-tail that allows you to connect a ctek to the standard 599/612/430 battery tender connection point. After my Ferrari ctek tender ate my 612 battery years ago, I made the pigtail, bought a more heavy duty ctek tender, and use the standard connection point in the trunk - this preserves the no-start-with-tender-connected feature. If you don't want to make it yourself, you can purchase from either of a couple of sources.
     
  11. mike32

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    Do you have a link where to get this ? Ta
     
  12. ar4me

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  13. Jkay

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    Thanks gents/ladies?

    I'll see what dealership says tomorrow when I take it in for a new key.
     
  14. MrF355

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    Why do you need a tender? I have never used a tender on any Ferrari I have owned and have never had a flat battery. Been on holidays, come back a month later and she fires up no problem.
     
  15. mike32

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    Fine if u use every day, mine wont go for more than 3 days without it.
     
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  17. Nospinzone

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    That's exactly how mine looks for my 612. It keeps the battery fully charged even though no other lights ever come on.

    BTW, the CTEK is not a "charger", it is a "tender". If your battery ever becomes fully discharged, the CTEK will not recharge it (in fact no lights will come on if you connect it to a dead battery), you will need an actual battery charger.
     
  18. Jkay

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    Thanks for the link to the ctek. They're apparently better than the Ferrari labelled ones (also made by ctek)

    No spinzone interesting hownyours works but no lights come on. They're testing mine for me to see if it's faulty or not

    I was advised by the service guys at FMS to keep it hooked up to a tender hence why. So far so good tho I haven't had any problems starting in the few weeks of ownership
     
  19. Nospinzone

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    Mine shows the green light just like your pic, but none of the other lights ever come on.
     
  20. MrF355

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    Unfortunately I don't drive mine every day. Sometimes it can be 2 to 3 weeks and have no problem starting.
     
  21. MrF355

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    FMS has never advised me of this. Who advised you? was it a senior tech or service adviser?
     
  22. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    Was the service manager. Also wanted to add He's been great with me as well since I came in the first time about doing the PPI.
     
  23. GianiCakes

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    I'm not sure that's right Paul. Admittedly mine was charged up by a friend's MXS 10 rather than the MXS 5 I have bought but I have no reason to believe the result would have been any different. It could be the standard Ferrari issue will not do it but I wouldn't say that applies to all Ctek.
    Personally if your charger is not showing all the lights just buy a new standard Ctek model. The new models are more advanced and there is no downside for a very modest $100 outlay.
     
  24. Jkay

    Jkay Karting

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    Ended up getting a CTEK MXS 5.0 and a Ferrari adapter

    Works great and I believe much better than the Ferrari one
     
  25. GianiCakes

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    That's the same set up I have and I'm very happy with it. I may preemptively buy another adaptor just in case my Scud charger fails as they seem to be a little harder to find.
    There must be 12 other Ferraris of varying vintage parked in "my" garage and a quick walk around showed that almost all of them are still on the original charger. That would suggest they are quite reliable so maybe mine had been dropped or something? Can't imagine Ctek producing a version of the LaFerrari charger anytime soon, it's about the size and shape of a vacuum cleaner.
     

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