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Well no, I'm not saying it would make ppl regret buying the Ford GT. Just that's it's an interesting thought to be able to buy all that mid engined performance for a potentially great price. Unless Chevy goes the Ford GT route and charges a half a mil.
Did you make the same post in the 488 section? Because the Corvette will most certainly be a lot closer to the build quality of the Ferrari than the Ford, so it's a more natural comparison.
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i used to see the ofgts at track days when they first came out all the time. modified ones too. rear bumper, exhaust delete, underdrive sc pulleys......
An underdrive SC pulley would slow the blower (and the car) down. Underdriven accessory pulleys and a smaller, overdriven blower pulley are what boosts power to the wheels. Sorry to be pedantic!
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Yes, youre correct. I used wrong term.
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Did you make the same post in the 488 section? Because the Corvette will most certainly be a lot closer to the build quality of the Ferrari than the Ford, so it's a more natural comparison.
No I did not. Are you taking a shot at Ferrari or Ford here (I assume Ferrari)?
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The Viper ACR is faster than all said cars on track. Most people don't seem to care. It's not an "exotic", a homologation special like the FGT, and apparently isn't that much more special than a Z06 to keep the car alive, which is a shame.

I guess the success of a car has a lot more to do with subjective elements than objective performance.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:58 AM
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But won nothing ...

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Eh? Corvette won Le Mans in GTE Pro in 2015...and Daytona and Sebring.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:00 AM
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Did you make the same post in the 488 section? Because the Corvette will most certainly be a lot closer to the build quality of the Ferrari than the Ford, so it's a more natural comparison.
Ferrari build quality is ok but below German makes.

Corvette build quality is awful.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:00 AM
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No I did not. Are you taking a shot at Ferrari or Ford here (I assume Ferrari)?
He isn't taking a shot at either. He's stating a fact. Not to take anything away from the 488, but the 488 components and build quality pale in comparison to the NFGT.

Dave, post the comparison pictures of the 458/NFGT undertray and control arms.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:05 AM
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No I did not. Are you taking a shot at Ferrari or Ford here (I assume Ferrari)?
It's not really a shot.

Quick look behind the wheels of the 458 and FGT that live 15 feet from my desk. This type of comparison can be made throughout the car. The GT apart is pure jewelry. It's much more impressive apart than it is together. The Ferrari is the reverse.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:10 AM
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Which one is more "Corvette-like."
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:50 AM
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It's not really a shot.

Quick look behind the wheels of the 458 and FGT that live 15 feet from my desk. This type of comparison can be made throughout the car. The GT apart is pure jewelry. It's much more impressive apart than it is together. The Ferrari is the reverse.
The new Ford GT build quality is stunning. I'll reserve judgment on a limited edition Vette until they make it. Obviously however a 80 grand Vette will be no where near the quality of the new Ford GT but also not near a 488 either.
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Eh? Corvette won Le Mans in GTE Pro in 2015...and Daytona and Sebring.
The "new" mid-engined Corvette has won nothing ... yet. Heck I don't believe it has even been built yet (?).

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The "new" mid-engined Corvette has won nothing ... yet. Heck I don't believe it has even been built yet (?).

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There is a prototype they are testing that I've seen pictures of out there.

The current version has the front engine so far back that it is quite well balanced.

Improving the balance with a true rear-mid-engine seems unlikely to hurt performance.
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It's not really a shot.

Quick look behind the wheels of the 458 and FGT that live 15 feet from my desk. This type of comparison can be made throughout the car. The GT apart is pure jewelry. It's much more impressive apart than it is together. The Ferrari is the reverse.
Of course it's a shot - LOL. Just be honest ; )

Corvette build quality is terrible. They paint the panels individually and assemble the car out of pieces. Massive, horrible orange peel and paint defects and non matching panels. They don't even clear over the tape lines when they do the exposed carbon fiber/paint look on the hood. There is a raised tape line...hahahaha. I mean the car is a monster; especially for the price. But take 10 steps back when admiring it.
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Corvette paint quality is terrible no doubt, but I'd pick the Chevy over the Ferrari every time for mechanical reliability.
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Corvette paint quality is terrible no doubt, but I'd pick the Chevy over the Ferrari every time for mechanical reliability.
Based on?
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Corvette paint quality is terrible no doubt, but I'd pick the Chevy over the Ferrari every time for mechanical reliability.
I had a Corvette C7. I had the $1000 upgraded metallic. Without question the worst paint I have even seen on a modern car.

I was embarrassed by it when people looked at it. Complete orangepeel of the worst kind. The orangepeel as so bad I was afraid to color correct it for fear of cutting through the paint.

I looked at the rear view mirrors which were painted in the same color. They were good --- no orangepeel. Then I found out the mirrors are made and painted by an outside supplier, not Chevy.

But the real proof is GM is now investing in a brand new paint facility at Bowling Green. Obviously, they see the problems also.
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I guess the success of a car has a lot more to do with subjective elements than objective performance.
Its always been that way
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The "new" mid-engined Corvette has won nothing ... yet. Heck I don't believe it has even been built yet (?).

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It doesn't work that way. Team Corvette has been the class of the GT field for over a decade now.
That would be the same as saying none of Porsche's LeMans victories mean anything because the new one hasn't won anything yet.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:15 AM
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It doesn't work that way. Team Corvette has been the class of the GT field for over a decade now.
That would be the same as saying none of Porsche's LeMans victories mean anything because the new one hasn't won anything yet.
I hear you, but there has never been a mid-engined Corvette before.
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