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  1. jm2

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    Beautiful-although the wheel design seems a bit heavy handed and out of place.
     
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  5. JCR

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    Color choice is unique instead of the usual red, black, yellow. In some photos it appears to be that chroma color changing paint. Metallics do look great on cars with compound curves.

    The large rims low profile tires on older cars needs to die already especially on the finalist ones.
     
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    I agree about the sizing of the wheels. Everyone is stuck on the Hotwheels look and the proportions are goofy but the wheel design is one of the cooler aspects of the car. They integrated with the other colors well too.
     
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    I'm of the opinion that the 'sweet spot' for wheel size is between 19" - 22"
    any larger they look like a cartoon......any smaller, look dated
    so many of the custom car guys get wayyy too large particularly on the rear, but I guess that's the 'trend'
     
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    19 is already on the threshold of the cartoon unless we are speaking of something on the scale of a full sized truck but even then...
     
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    I like the overall style of the wheel, but think they would look better if there was some openings in the spokes. I can only imagine how much each of those weigh.
     
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    they probably weigh a great deal......but I hardly think he's going to be driving it much ;)
    agree, some ventilation would have helped
     
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    On a modern car I absolutely agree-new Challenger for example, looks thick and clumsy without larger diameter wheels. An original Challenger? No way. A stock bodied car looks cartoonish with the big rollers so popular with the restomod set. Now, for a full custom with enlarged,radiused wheel openings, puffed fenders,lowered ride height,etc-OK. As most of the designers depict them with much larger wheels in the concept sketches-it begins to make sense.
     
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    today's OEM designers, and much to my chagrin, my students have a propensity to 'overstate' wheel size to the point of caricature
    as comparison an AMC sketch from the late '80's.....
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    Yes, they do! Sadly, I'm also disappointed when I view these high dollar SEMA builds by shops that exhibit excellent craftsmanship and detail, yet nearly zero idea of design flow, integration and proportion.
     
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    I like period Hot Rods & Customs from the late 1940s and early 50s but I must say I don't dig the current crop of retro customs and hot rods.

    The craftsmanship on the 39 Olds looks superb, but to me what is the point of building a "modern" version of a 39 Olds in much the same way as Ford Argentina built new cars into the 1980s based on 1960-63 Falcons.

    It looks nice with quality perhaps on par ( in appearance at least ) with a new Bentley but it probably cost more than a new Bentley to build so one would be entitled to expect a quality finish - after all money can produce anything you want within reason

    For the cost of the build I bet you could buy a real Pegaso, perhaps some Delahayes and many other exotics which encompass both mechanical excellence, design integrity as well as historical significance

    This 2016 ( aka 39 ) Olds custom is really in essence like a 2016 Lincoln save for the retro body design. " Big Deal" I'd say - not to mention a waste of time and money - but that's my opinion!
     
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    I don't disagree, but having said that, it's art, and as such the 'artist' expression takes the form of a '39 Olds,whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant
    It's not how I would have spent that much $$, that's for sure...
     
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    It is the current day show case for the coach building art. Since the costs are too high and the availability of talent too rare it is no longer practical for any even luxury new car. I suppose in a sense we should be thankful there are patrons of that art that keep it alive in the form of very expensive customs.

    While I appreciate the skills and have some friends involved at the very high levels of it I prefer the more traditional hot rod builds.
    Also, knowing a number of those involved some are the same as doing very high level restorations as seen at Pebble Beach and else where. They are skills that we should be thankful are still alive and only alive because there are a few that can still afford them.
     
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    What is the third drawing of? Looks like a Pontiac Bonneville that went on a date with a plastic surgeon who drove a Mercury
     
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    :D

    It's a late '60's American Motors sketch of I believe an Ambassador proposal
    AMC VP Design, Dick Teague gave it to me in my job interview
    What can I say?
    I don't see Bonneville in it
     
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    The 69' was less attractive than the 67/68. I don't know what is worse on that car, the rims or the horrid grille.
     
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    I liked the 69 a lot better but nothing about that one is an improvement.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mbhM5IvF-E[/ame]
     
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    'it won the Ridler Award in Deeetroit.....' :)

    the video really shows off the attention to detail nicely, thanks
     

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