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Old 01-16-2017, 02:22 PM
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Forget the new ZR1. The Dodge Demon is coming 800hp and AWD!!
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:19 PM
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Won't be AWD, but will be a more powerful Hellcat motor in a RWD Challenger

I've already got a deposit on one ...
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Old 01-16-2017, 04:18 PM
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Won't be AWD, but will be a more powerful Hellcat motor in a RWD Challenger

I've already got a deposit on one ...
I own a Hellcat and love the car. I may be interested in the Demon so I stopped by the dealer where I bought the Hellcat. They had no information on the car. They had to look it up while I was there. They said the news release indicated it was available in 2018.

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Old 01-16-2017, 04:53 PM
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This car explains why the 2017 Hellcat is being discounted. I thought it was going to be released in April or May?
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Old 01-16-2017, 07:47 PM
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Won't be AWD, but will be a more powerful Hellcat motor in a RWD Challenger

I've already got a deposit on one ...
Ive tried to put a deposit on one as well, but my local dodge dealer doesn't wanna take a deposit. I think its cause they wanna keep their allocation and sell it for oversticker.
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:49 AM
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I would not say forget the ZR1. I would bet you it will out do whatever the Demon does stock vs stock. No changing tires or anything (compare stock hellcat vs stock Z06). Now if you just want to brag about horsepower knock yourself out.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:36 AM
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Any pictures of what this thing is supposed to look like? A quick Google didn't show much of anything.
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Scares me somewhat, that ANY driver with NO driving experience with the necessary funds can purchase a "800 HORSEPOWER" car!!!

I think strongly that Dodge should offer FREE high performance driving lesson with ANY of their "High Horsepower" cars!
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:37 PM
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Scares me somewhat, that ANY driver with NO driving experience with the necessary funds can purchase a "800 HORSEPOWER" car!!!

I think strongly that Dodge should offer FREE high performance driving lesson with ANY of their "High Horsepower" cars!
I think they should require the class
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:37 PM
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With AWD should be easier to drive than the Hellcat. But it's no different than any of the other fast cars, or bikes for that matter.
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no awd but i think it might have wide body kit that can fit wider rear tires.
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Old 01-18-2017, 04:31 PM
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Those are definitely needed. Both the Mustang and Camaro have wider rear tires on cars with less power.
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Challenger Sport in a year's time.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:13 AM
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Supposedly ~200 lbs lighter than an equivalent Hellcat, which still makes it a heavy car due to the basic platform. Light wheels and suspension components for sure though I haven't heard whether they'll be stripping out interior bits (eg rear seat).

Unless they can get more tire in the back, I'm not sure how Dodge will get the Demon to hook up while remaining a street car. I've a Shelby GT500 and the biggest issue is traction - and there are guys who will bump these cars to 750-800 hp with a simple pulley change, larger throttle body and a tune - something that can be done in a couple of hours - plus change rear end to 3.73 gears (from stock 3.31). I've no idea how they get the tires to hook up while still being streetable.

Really looking forward to when they finally release all the info and someone can do a proper review. Once the cars are released, we should start a pool on how long it takes for someone to hit a tree while exiting a Cars & Coffee event and the video is posted on YouTube.
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I would not say forget the ZR1. I would bet you it will out do whatever the Demon does stock vs stock. No changing tires or anything (compare stock hellcat vs stock Z06). Now if you just want to brag about horsepower knock yourself out.
They are building it specifically to hook up and go fast in a straight line. I'm guessing solidly in the tens, bone stock.
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They are building it specifically to hook up and go fast in a straight line. I'm guessing solidly in the tens, bone stock.
That's my (somewhat educated) guess as well Today's Hellcat is capable of low 11's with factory tires, and easily into the 10's with drag slicks.

If the new Demon has less weight (which it will, latest info is ~200lb reduction), better tires, suspension and leaned-on Hellcat motor i think we can expect 10's right from the factory

I can hardly wait !!
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Has anyone read or know if the Demon will be offered with a manual trans? My 2016 Hellcat is manual and I would not trade it for an auto Demon - manual Demon perhaps - love the Hellcat BTW :-)
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Has anyone read or know if the Demon will be offered with a manual trans? My 2016 Hellcat is manual and I would not trade it for an auto Demon - manual Demon perhaps - love the Hellcat BTW :-)
The dealer I bought my Vtper and my Hellcat said most likely it would come both manual and automatic. The automatic will be quicker as in the hellcat.

I think we are entering a new golden age of cars. The American cars are now equal or better than the European. Of course the Europeans make some wonderful cars we do not see in the States.

Of course the Japanese come along with the Acura SNX which is an awesome car. I love market place competition

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Old 01-19-2017, 09:38 PM
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The comparison to the vette is just stupid. In a straight line the Z06 with A8 is in the mid 10's on stock tires and low 10's with drag radials. However, unlike the dodge the vette stops and turns plus does straight line too. And the Tesla is in the mid 10's, the 911 and so on. I guess it is finally welcome to the club for a big size car. So the comparison to the supposed upcoming ZR1 was just that, stupid. That is the exception I took with the OP.
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:07 PM
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Would love 2wd. An optional stripped car would be kewl - no A.C. and Atari dash. Available 6spd manual !
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