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  1. Cyt

    Cyt F1 Rookie

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    Would you do bi annual service if you only do 1600 to 1700 kms per year?
     
  2. PAP 348

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    Nope, once a year would be fine.
     
  3. Cyt

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    What about once every two years?
     
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    #4 PAP 348, Apr 22, 2014
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    I would do it once a year. Low km's or not, engine oil still breaks down and loses it's properties over time so if you stick to a yearly service routine you will be fine.

    Every 2 years you should also flush the brake fluid, coolant and replace the transmission oil. Especially for your Ferrari that never gets driven.

    Brake fluid is often overlooked but it's critical it's replaced at least every 2 years. Brake fluid is hygroscopic meaning it absorbs and retains water. Having water in the brake systems internally corrodes parts. Not so bad in your average Holden/Ford DD because it's cheap to repair, but in a Ferrari can be VERY expensive to repair.

    *I flush the brake fluid in all of my cars every 2 years because in my small town, the Wife and I barely rack the mileage up. Normal service interval for brake fluid is 2 years or 40,000 km, we don't come close to driving 10,000 km every two years*
     
  5. moretti

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    You should flush the brake fluid after every trackday as well
     
  6. Cyt

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    i only use it for posing (360)., so no need to worry..
     
  7. PAP 348

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    Absolutely. :)

    We know...................it's a Spider! ;)
     
  8. Aircon

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    Doesn't Ferrari recommend brake fluid change every year?
     
  9. Dave 456

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    If you don't do much track work - I'd suggest flushing and new brake fluid before a trackday, not after....
     
  10. carl888

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    Ferrari suggest (As do Porsche) to change brake fluid every year. This is irrespective of whether the car is driven or not, for the hygroscopic nature of fluid already mentioned. If the car is used aggressively on the track, fluid should be changed immediately AFTER each event.

    Engine and transmission oil as per the manufacturers requirements. A forgotten change is the coolant, it's imperative that this contains the correct corrosion inhibitors, which age. these inhibitors are essential for an alloy block. And same with the oil for the F1 pump and power steering. Just check the owners manual for the interval for the above.
     
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    Hi Carl, what is the reason for changing brake fluid after a track day? I would have thought that fresh fluid before a track event was the most important. Having done 20 years of racing and a fair bit of track instructing, the number of instructees cars where the brakes went away after a couple of laps was significant. Asking the owners when the fluid was last changed usually got the answer of "dunno, do you have to change it?" Porsche owners were the worst..

    Not trying to be clever, I just hadn't heard that before.
     
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    I think he's assuming the brake fluid is already fresh.
     
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    I've always changed it after every track day as that makes the most sense to me :confused:

    BTW PP, what brake fluid did you put in Satan ?

    The AP racing stuff I assume ?
     
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    Dave, If you are doing a meeting once a year, you'd do it before and after. Let's say you do 4 meetings a year, in a street car, you'd change it after each event. The theory being that the heat soak through the calipers reduces the effectiveness of the fluid. Small blurb here:

    » Brake Fluid Information
     
  16. Aircon

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    I don't recall. I think I bought it at KMart.
     
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    I'm sure, but what is the benefit in changing brake fluid after a track event? Again, not being clever, just hadn't heard of that before. Changing brake fluid the day before a meeting always worked for me - but I was doing 5/6 meetings a year, so the car didn't sit with old fluid for long.
     
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    Must be AP racing then as that is all Kmart sells :rolleyes:
     
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    Crossed posts! Thanks Carl, getting rid of the cooked fluid in the calipers makes sense, I guess. But, what effect does cooked fluid have on the longevity of the brake system for a couple of months.

    What is the hot brake fluid these days? I used Castrol SRF or AP, but I'm sure that there is something better currently. SRF was horrendiously expensive, but I got it for free..
     
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    Dave, I don't know what its long term effects are on the braking system. In my case, after I've managed to get the fluid hot, for some reason, I just get a long pedal, don't know why, just does!

    I imagine on a car with decent brakes (i.e. none of mine) this would not be such an issue. I used to use AP600, it was highly hygroscopic so went down to AP550 which was not as bad but used to change it regularly, say three times a year. SRF seems way over priced, it's still a 600 degree fahrenheit fluid but I've never understood its marked increase in price over the others.

    I now use Penrite Racing brake fluid. I've standardised it in all my cars. It's a 600 degree fluid like SRF but it's a lowly $23 approx per 500ml. I have always, and recommend, that brake fluid be changed every year, irrespective of use. That is the recommendation in the owners manuals for the OHOSs I drive.

    Penrite Oil - A Better Class Of Oil

    The only issue, it's not recommended for brake systems that contain magnesium, so I use standard fluid in the 288 GTO :)
     
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    You wouldn't believe how many customers used to bring that crap to me to put in their engines! :eek::eek:

    More than I care to remember................................*shudder*
     
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    followed by Coles insurance when the brakes fail at 100 kph :)
     
  24. Aircon

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    Wrong viscosity. :)
     
  25. ihavearedferrari

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    My belts were due for a service, so I got Sal to change em. The belts after three years were perfectly fine, however they were much looser compared to what they should be. Seems to me the problem is not the belts but the tensioner pulleys after 3 years, belts were easily good for another 2 years. This is for a 360 anyway.
     

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