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  1. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
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    Myself and a couple of mates from work are considering entering a series next year for a bit of fun.
    A bit like we did a couple of years ago with our effort in the 24 hour scooter race.

    Apparently there's a series which consists of a few 24 hour races for completely stock cars.

    The question is, what would be a good option?

    Doesn't have to be "fast". Just something that is cheap as buggery, handles alright and would be reliable and fun to do something like this in.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. MAD828

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    Honda Civic. Specifically EG or EK variants. They make a great little track car.
     
  3. au-yt

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    Is there a link to regs for the race?
     
  4. Steve355F1

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    Yeah. Actually it's much more limiting than I realised (mainly on total cost), and therefore not necessarily what we're after.

    24 hours of Lemons Australia ? Endurance car racing ? 24 Hours of LeMons ? Australia

    If this turns out to be not much chop, is there anything else that a few blokes with not much money could enter that would be fun and a bit of a laugh?
    Not interested in anything that people take too seriously and cheat or knock others off the track etc.

    I do like the idea of endurance style rather than flat out sprints for the reasons above.
     
  5. Steve355F1

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    Sounds perfect. What sort of racing can you enter with those?
     
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    Sounds like fun,however the team costume looks more important than the race.
    Green onesie of the Green team looks a bit risque..
     
  7. Steve355F1

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    #7 Steve355F1, Nov 8, 2016
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    Looking at the team photos, it's very hard to see how they could have bought and set those cars up for $999.

    But it does look like, errr, fun.

    Edit: I love how he's got the watch on UNDER the green suit.
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  8. Steve355F1

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    Lots of options but I'd start by looking at the events that are available to you in SA.

    Historic Formula Ford : less than 20K for a mid-field car. I've seen them change hands for under 10K. Major fun to drive.

    HQ racing: theres a good car on my105.com current asking 11900. Offer him 9K.

    Speedway: wingless sprint car, less than 10K will get you started. Biggest excitement for the dollar but a bit dangerous.

    Forest Rally: plenty of Corollas and Datto 1200's, again under 10K.

    Best place to buy is the classifieds in the back of club magazines. Don't believe the prices you see online.
     
  10. Nintendo64

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    Good list!

    Fast, fun and mostly safe = Go Karts, most F1 pilots had a start in Karts
     
  11. Steve355F1

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    Excellent. Thanks Ian.
     
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    1 month ban :)

    A couple of mates just did the 24 hrs of lemons - lots of fun. Most of the cars are unregistrable jap imports and can be purchased quite cheaply, but I don't think anyone believes the $1000 bit.

    If you want to seriously do a series - Gemini for sedans, and FF for open wheelers.
     
  14. PSk

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    Aussie racing cars.

    This is what I would do. Great racing and has to be serious fun.
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    All of that does sound fun and I wish I had the option to do something like that here.
     
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    Cockroach racing?
     
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    Plenty of that goes on here at home. :p
     
  18. Steve355F1

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    Interesting. Thanks Patrick.

    Slightly disappointing to hear that even in such a non-important caper people still feel the need to cheat. (What is wrong with people)?

    Is there any class of racing which is just fun and people do it for a laugh, instead of acting like it's the F1 World Championship?
     
  19. PSk

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    No.

    But a spec series such as Aussie Racing Cars means that cheating is much harder ;)
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  20. Dave 456

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    In my experience, the tighter the spec, the more it rewards cheating - unless inspections are very good. Example of not really cheating, but maybe not in the spirit: many years ago I was involved in running a Vee - wasn't the driver - I went out and bought every set of VW valve springs I could lay my hands on, over 100, about 1000 springs. Many hours with a tester resulted in 50 rpm up the hill at Amaroo. Instant promotion from mid field to top 5.

    I don't know about Ians class, but cheating is widespread in Group S historics, which is one of the reasons I'm not involved any more.

    Back to the original question, is racing a requirement? Lots of inexpensive fun can be had at sprints and hillclimbs.
     
  21. IanB

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    Absolutely, naive to think otherwise.

    F5000's are 80% cheat cars, but most of the Atlantics, F1's and Indy cars are true to period.

    Nothing is as exciting as wheel to wheel racing and you have just as much fun regardless of where you finish. In fact, taking it too seriously is a recipe for frustration and disappointment, as well as a damaged car.
     
  22. PSk

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    Yes I guess the hunt for any small advantage requires OCD ;)
    Because Atlantics, F1's and Indy cars have nothing to race against.
    Very much agree which is why I'm so enthralled with Aussie Racing Cars. Their races are awesome to watch. Would love to be involved!
    Pete
     
  23. IanB

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    err, it's called Group R and we race each other - the Atlantics keep the bigger cars more than honest.
     
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    Yes but if there was a class of Indy cars the competition would be tighter and then those that wanted to would resort to cheating.

    Nobody would cheat in F5000 if there was only a couple in Group R, for example.
    Pete
     
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    It's been around for 10 years in the states. Both Top Gear USA and Road Kill have done episodes.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbcyi_rGdjU[/ame]


    A few mates of mine did mystery box rally this year. They had a great time and want to do it again next year.

    They changed the rules for next year and you need to supply your own car.
     

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