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  1. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Ducati found it tough to decide to split with Andrea Iannone to accommodate three-time MotoGP champion Jorge Lorenzo in 2017.

    Lorenzo announced in April that he would leave Yamaha at the end of the 2016 season to join Ducati, leaving the Italian manufacturer with a choice between Andreas Dovizioso and Iannone to be his team-mate.

    That timing coincided with several early-season errors from Iannone, including crashing into Dovizioso on the last lap in Argentina when they were second and third.

    Dovizioso got the nod to stay on, but the Suzuki-bound Iannone then broke Ducati's winless run of nearly six years at the Red Bull Ring.

    "It's never easy when you have two very fast riders in your team to decide which one has to go," Ducati sporting director Paolo Ciabatti said.

    "It was not an easy one because both Andreas have been with us since 2013, going through very difficult times together, helping Ducati and Gigi [Dall'Igna, general manager] to build a better bike and I think what is today a very competitive bike.

    "In the end we said it was going to be a difficult decision but in life you have to take difficult decisions, so we made a decision, Andrea Dovizioso would stay.

    "I think him and Lorenzo are a very good team for the future and obviously we regret that Iannone is leaving because he achieved our first race win since 2010 in Austria.

    "I'm sure he will be very competitive on the Suzuki, so he will be one of our strongest competitors, but this is life."



    Iannone made his MotoGP debut in 2013 and spent two seasons with the Pramac satellite squad before joining Dovizioso with the factory outfit.

    He finished ninth in the riders' standings, 59 points behind fifth-placed Dovizioso, although did miss four races through injury.

    Dall'Igna also paid tribute to the 27-year-old, who claimed seven podium finishes during his two seasons with Ducati, including third in his final start at Valencia in November.

    "With Iannone, I have a very good relationship with him and vice versa," he said.

    "I would like to say thanks to Iannone, because he did a fantastic race [at Valencia], he rode that bike with Ducati in his heart, and I think that is really important.

    "We spent the last four years with him, and the improvement we did was also due to him, and so thank you to him and good luck for his future."
     
  2. Nintendo64

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    What a croc of you know what, the main reason they got rid of the FASTER Andrea is because it was one of Lorenzo;s demands, Lorenzo the coward might as well make his life there as easy as possible, starting with a slower team mate is step one.

    I stopped loving Ducati when they sold it to ze-germans, will be supporting Rossi and Aprilia in 2017
     
  3. Aircon

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    And you know this because......?
     
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  5. AKA

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    Because we'll most likely never get Laguna Seca back as a MotoGP round, this will just have to do.

    MotoGP News - MotoGP at Spa-Francorchamps?

    Seeing a MotoGP bike run through Eau Rouge would be phenomenal.
     
  6. Aircon

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    MotoGP?

    Testing coming up in an hour.
     
  7. AKA

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  8. Aircon

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    1 STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team 1:59.680 25 / 32

    2 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:59.797 0.117 0.117 23 / 29

    3 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.129 0.449 0.332 34 / 54

    4 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.134 0.454 0.005 37 / 53

    5 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.489 0.809 0.355 22 / 44

    6 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 2:00.569 0.889 0.080 27 / 44

    7 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.643 0.963 0.074 23 / 40

    8 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.694 1.014 0.051 20 / 27

    9 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.738 1.058 0.044 25 / 56

    10 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:00.743 1.063 0.005 24 / 38

    11 PETRUCCI, Danilo OCTO Pramac Yakhnich 2:00.850 1.170 0.107 27 / 34

    12 REDDING, Scott OCTO Pramac Yakhnich 2:00.853 1.173 0.003 28 / 44

    13 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:00.970 1.290 0.117 25 / 44

    14 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.224 1.544 0.254 46 / 69

    15 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:01.272 1.592 0.050 23 / 36

    16 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.338 1.658 0.066 45 / 58

    17 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 2:01.349 1.669 0.011 40 / 45

    18 BAZ, Loris Avintia Racing 2:01.352 1.672 0.003 47 / 48

    19 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:01.812 2.132 0.460 28 / 79

    20 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:01.890 2.210 0.078 49 / 52

    21 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:01.926 2.246 0.036 40 / 45

    22 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:01.943 2.263 0.017 49 / 51

    23 NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.187 2.507 0.244 33 / 36

    24 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.291 2.611 0.104 24 / 45

    25 RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:02.315 2.635 0.024 22 / 37

    26 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.943 3.263 0.628 33 / 50

    27 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:03.033 3.353 0.090 47 / 49

    NC PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team
     
  9. moretti

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    Casey is whooping the Ducati riders
     
  10. simon klein

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    I'd LOVE to the Dukes get up this year,if Casey's on even better.
     
  11. ihavearedferrari

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    Too early to call Lorenzo useless and a waste of money?
     
  12. Aircon

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    Yes! Lol
     
  13. AKA

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    Day 2 - 8th fastest

    Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Prev. Gap Laps Last lap
    1 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:59.452 38 / 40
    2 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.858 0.406 0.406 51 / 51
    3 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.218 0.766 0.360 46 / 49
    4 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.254 0.802 0.036 51 / 54
    5 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.343 0.891 0.089 49 / 50
    6 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:00.352 0.900 0.009 26 / 33
    7 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:00.441 0.989 0.089 33 / 42
    8 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 2:00.484 1.032 0.043 65 / 66
    9 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.495 1.043 0.011 43 / 43
    10 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.531 1.079 0.036 27 / 33
    11 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:00.609 1.157 0.078 29 / 36
    12 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 2:00.691 1.239 0.082 39 / 44
    13 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.876 1.424 0.185 36 / 36
    14 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:00.886 1.434 0.010 38 / 44
    15 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.972 1.520 0.086 35 / 36
    16 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.981 1.529 0.009 43 / 44
    17 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 2:01.124 1.672 0.143 15 / 20
    18 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:01.227 1.775 0.103 29 / 30
    19 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team 2:01.382 1.930 0.155 37 / 45
    20 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.525 2.073 0.143 36 / 37
    21 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:01.556 2.104 0.031 24 / 56
    22 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.058 2.606 0.502 45 / 47
    23 RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:02.189 2.737 0.131 24 / 30
    24 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:02.267 2.815 0.078 52 / 54
    25 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:02.516 3.064 0.249 30 / 32
    26 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.893 3.441 0.377 26 / 36
    27 NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing 2:03.052 3.600 0.159 33 / 34
    NC STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team

    Half way through day 3 right now and he's 6th, so we'll see how he goes.
     
  14. Nintendo64

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    He will be fine, for sure he will win race/s, not sure he can fight for the Championship in 2017 but who who knows, we have seen hopeless riders like Roberts Jnr and Hayben be World Champion [2 x jokes]

    Ducati head honcho Gigi-D is a God, so you neverknow... Just hoping for close fast racing

    I will be doing a Aussie, and backing the underdog, FORZA APRILIA!! [Italian Made, Italian Owned]
     
  15. ihavearedferrari

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    Casey sitting out as per Ducati's instructions so as not to make their riders look ****?
     
  16. AKA

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    Ha, possible.

    He did get back out on day 3, a little down the order, but with a better overall time than day 1, though Dovi was finally ahead by 0.1 of a second, and Lorenzo only off the pace by a bit over 0.1 of a second.

    Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Prev. Gap Laps Last lap
    1 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.368 40 / 72
    2 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 1:59.506 0.138 0.138 18 / 85
    3 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:59.553 0.185 0.047 9 / 56
    4 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 1:59.578 0.210 0.025 64 / 67
    5 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.589 0.221 0.011 50 / 62
    6 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:59.628 0.260 0.039 10 / 64
    7 STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team 1:59.639 0.271 0.011 8 / 46
    8 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 1:59.728 0.360 0.089 67 / 71
    9 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 1:59.767 0.399 0.039 29 / 66
    10 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:59.772 0.404 0.005 42 / 45
    11 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.045 0.677 0.273 45 / 49
    12 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.057 0.689 0.012 58 / 60
    13 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:00.108 0.740 0.051 21 / 53
    14 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.310 0.942 0.202 51 / 53
    15 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.312 0.944 0.002 25 / 54
    16 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:00.439 1.071 0.127 9 / 70
    17 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.445 1.077 0.006 11 / 38
    18 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:00.537 1.169 0.092 15 / 50
    19 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.645 1.277 0.108 55 / 74
    20 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:00.873 1.505 0.228 32 / 58
    21 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.338 1.970 0.465 61 / 62
    22 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:01.341 1.973 0.003 7 / 43
    23 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.506 2.138 0.165 14 / 67
    24 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.658 2.290 0.152 28 / 30
    25 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:02.769 3.401 1.111 59 / 68
    NC NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing
    NC PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team
    NC RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS




    Phillip Island testing from 15/2 to 17/2, I'll be watching that closely. And then WorldSBK opens at Phillip Island a week after that.
     
  17. Aircon

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    Anyone getting the feeling that the chances of Rossi winning another championship is next to none? The bloke on the same bike is mega.
     
  18. stevecomp

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    I think Jeremy Burgess said the same thing once, it's a long season, anything can happen. I'm sure Rossi will give 110%.
    Mav is good rider but one or two dnf's can change the end results, hope it's like last year with plenty riders getting on the podium. Consistency and some luck is the key to winning a championship more than a single race.
     
  19. AKA

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    If he couldn't do it last year, it's never happening again. Marquez had such a bad start with problems with his bike and still snuck past him.

    This year with some great talent on great bikes, I think he'll be up around 3rd or 4th at the end of the year.
     
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    I feel all warm and fuzzy when you agree with me
     
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    It was your birthday present.
     
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    He's trying to butter you up on your birthday for a hefty discount on the 996. :)
     
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    1. = Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 28.847s [Lap 21/36]
    2. ^ Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 29.309s +0.462s [20/29]
    3. ˅ Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 29.325s +0.478s [28/28]
    4. ^ Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 29.501s +0.654s [18/18]
    5. ^ Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 29.674s +0.827s [18/27]
    6. ^ Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 29.694s +0.847s [22/23]
    7. ˅ Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 29.957s +1.110s [11/23]
    8. ˅ Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 29.991s +1.144s [8/20]
    9. ˅ Alvaro Bautista ESP Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 30.091s +1.244s [6/25]
    10. ^ Karel Abraham CZE Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 30.142s +1.295s [20/23]
    11. ˅ Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 30.207s +1.360s [9/24]
    12. = Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 30.225s +1.378s [34/34]
    13. ^ Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 30.352s +1.505s [18/22]
    14. ˅ Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 30.468s +1.621s [9/19]
    15. ^ Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 30.645s +1.798s [24/27]
    16. ˅ Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 30.667s +1.820s [11/21]
    17. NA Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 30.749s +1.902s [7/16]
    18. ˅ Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 30.979s +2.132s [4/16]
    19. ^ Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 31.472s +2.625s [24/25]
    20. ˅ Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 32.117s +3.270s [13/24]
    21. ˅ Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 32.428s +3.581s [7/22]
    Read more at MotoGP Results - Phillip Island MotoGP test - Thursday (12pm)
     
  24. ihavearedferrari

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    Jorge looks as though he is struggling.
     

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