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  1. FERRARI-TECH

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    I know its on her way to England as I type, but as yet have not been able to find her on any of the flight tracking sites.

    I know someone here is following the progress....can anyone throw me a bone ????

    I cant wait to see the only two airworthy Lanc's flying together.......
     
  2. Bob Parks

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    I saw this airplane at Abottsford in 1990-91. Beautiful plane and wonderful sounds.
     
  3. Tim Wells

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    Bob, I was at that airshow with a Weasel F-4G. It was the 30th anniversary show and it rained for the first time.
     
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    We crossed the border yesterday at Abottsford on the way to Chilliwack. Saw the air show going on - very impressive- saw some Canadian Acrobatic team of 10 jets. Skyhawks maybe?
     
  5. tazandjan

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    #6 tazandjan, Aug 10, 2014
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    John- That would have been the CAF's Snowbirds. Had a friend while in NATO who flew for them. They also have a smaller CF-18 demonstration team.
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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as always. I've always considered the Lancaster one of the most beautiful aircraft of WW2, if not ever, but then I've had the honor of seeing (many) and being in a few of the surviving examples.... How those 18 year old boys flew them to Berlin in darkness in formation (loose) while being shot at is just beyond my comprehension...
     
  8. Bob Parks

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    I knew several of them and the only survivor ended up in a mental ward near the end of the war. There was no copilot, just a pilot, navigator, flight engineer, and a bomb aimer. The Germans had it figured very well with their night fighters equipped with a battery of 30mm canon firing out of the top of the ME 110's. Lancaster crews were slaughtered either by the fighters or flak. The Lancaster was a great airplane and a beautiful one. All flight crews then were brave as hell and knew that their chances of survival were slim but they did what they did without complaint. People now will never know what they endured.
     
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    Bob- Just like the US B-17s and B-24s, losses were horrendous until escort fighters became available once the German Schrage Musik and radars were deployed. Remember the stories of the RAF night fighter aces being fed carrots to improve night vision because the radars they carried were classified? Quite a few night fighter aces, most of which were for killing incoming raiders until they began support/escort operations. The thought of flying at all close to a large formation of bombers with a range only radar scares the snot out of me. Especially since the bombers had no way of telling what was friend or foe in the dark.
     
  10. Bob Parks

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    You're correct, Taz. I was friends with an ex- Mosquito night fighter Ace who was an American flying for the RAF. He had 17 night victories and loved the Mosquito. He shot down JU 88, Me 110, and said that the JU 88 was almost an equal to the Mossy in a dog fight and he felt good to help clear the night skies of them. He had some real interesting stories.
     
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    Bob- I spent most of my career flying around in the dark on terrain following radar, so I can empathize with him. Sure makes for a pretty light show when they are shooting at you, but we had no offensive capability. AIM-9s were authorized but seldom, maybe once, fitted in combat.
     
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    Also read that it was almost impossible to get out of a Lancaster with a chute on. The forward hatch was too small.
     
  13. Bob Parks

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    The Vulcan was the same. So tight that you couldn't hardly move in normal situations.
     
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    Because of that the biggest hurdle was climbing over the main spar to get to the door in the back. No auto pilot, trim shot to pieces, many many brave pilots stayed at the controls to try to give some of the crew time to bail out. To then try to climb your way over that spar ( which is hard to do in civilian clothes), in a spinning burning aircraft that is on fire in the dark......unreal
     
  15. Bob Parks

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    I can imagine that you have some good stories to tell after doing that kind of flying, relying on terrain following boxes. They always manage to increase the pucker factor.
     
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