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Any buy what?
Think Lambo.....Black with tan !!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:30 PM
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Think Lambo.....Black with tan !!!
I almost bought this a few months prior to buying my Testarossa. One day she will be mine
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I almost bought this a few months prior to buying my Testarossa. One day she will be mine
I said Black Joe!!!! Nice car thou!!!
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:50 AM
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The Testarossa will be turning 30 in 2014, any thoughts on the effect it might have on its value? I mean boat loads of cars saw their value go up around their big birthdays.
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Because everything in life has a value...life, stocks,homes and cars....and if your car is worth .10 cents as you say, it invites all the bottom feeders and negativity in the world. This is why owners care if there car price stays stable..as opposed to being worthless.
If you are selling, I understand of course.


Again, If you are not selling, I still don't. The second the title is in your name, You are "in." It is worth something to YOU.

What happens to its supposed "external" value as voiced by others is irrelevant, at least to me.
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[QUOTE=mwr4440;141435369]If you are selling, I understand of course.


Again, If you are not selling, I still don't. The second the title is in your name, You are "in." It is worth something to YOU.

What happens to its supposed "external" value as voiced by others is irrelevant, at least to me.

+1.

When you purchase a car for the wrong reason you worry about the price going down.
I think your in the wrong game if you buy any car for 50-70k and then have to sink 8-10k or more every 5 years and your not doing it other than for the thrill the vehicle gives you. Ferrari dealership labor prices are so high it almost makes airplane ownership look more economical.

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I agree, the Lambo is amazing, but we had one join one of our rides last year and while I was impressed, I found it too claustrophobic. The TR is really great in that respect, also for visibility

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If I had the means to add another car, I think I would go with a 360 (or 458 Italia but I have yet to win the lottery)
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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I agree, the Lambo is amazing, but we had one join one of our rides last year and while I was impressed, I found it too claustrophobic. The TR is really great in that respect, also for visibility

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If I had the means to add another car, I think I would go with a 360 (or 458 Italia but I have yet to win the lottery)
Not to derail this thread to much, but I had the pleasure of driving a Countach last year. I love my Testarossa. It is a much easier car to own and live with than a Countach.

HOWEVER, the Countach was, hands down, the greatest automotive thrill of my life. I will own one day.

Here is the link to the thread I wrote shortly after my drive.

I owe you guys a BIG apology
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You don't need an engine out service in a 308. It's virtually impossible for the average guy to do that in his garage with a TR.

On a 308, you can do just about everything in maintenance with the car on jack stands.

It's the 308. Sorry.
I found this in the 308 thread. Seems that now you CAN'T do just about everything with the 308 on stands.....Mark

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in the end all old ferrari's will rise but the gorgious 3x8 espacially!

I disagree with about every part of your post. The reason why rebuild costs are what they are for the engine is mainly parts costs, not labor. If parts costs were less in Europe, we'd just order them from there.

I know a lot of shops that will do the timing belt on a 308 for $1500 so I don't know where you are getting your information on the US situation. It's not that difficult if all you are doing is the belts. And, it's not a DYI thing to do in your garage with a few jack stands.

As to the Chinese wanting 308's someday, I really disagree here. They have very little love of classic cars because they have no history of classic cars. If that were the case, you'd see Enzo era cars heading on every ship to Shanghai today. There's plenty of money to buy them but little interest. They never saw "Magnum".

Will prices rise eventually? Probably. But only for good ones -- and those are getting harder to find everyday which is why they will rise. At some point, when you look at a car with 120K miles and it needs just about everything, the cost to bring it back is more than the car is worth. That's going to be a problem.

That isn't to say some wouldn't do it. That just means that few would want to instead of just buying one in good condition cheaper.


The 308 is a great starter Ferrari. Unfortunately, it's also a 30 year old starter Ferrari living in the 1980's with 1980's problems of rust, wear and tear, emission problems, poor maintenance from it's many owners, and creature comfort that is an acquired taste. That limits the market.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:12 AM
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I have to say that after checking the asking prices on Ebay, Dupont Registry, Hemmings, Autotrader etc., this is probably the highest I have seen TR prices since 2006. It's nice to see the pop. As to some who feel that talking about the value of their car has no merit, IMO, it's a thread that interests many otherwise it wouldn't have generated 110 posts so far. I am glad to see that the TR is finally getting the respect that it is richly entitled too.

Joe, I am in the market for a countach as well. It is a very thinly traded market. It takes time to find an excellent example. I started a garage restoration project that I have yet to finish. I hope to add the Countach within the next year.

My TR is not for sale but I love seeing the car get the respect that she deserves.
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I have to say that after checking the asking prices on Ebay, Dupont Registry, Hemmings, Autotrader etc., this is probably the highest I have seen TR prices since 2006. It's nice to see the pop. As to some who feel that talking about the value of their car has no merit, IMO, it's a thread that interests many otherwise it wouldn't have generated 110 posts so far. I am glad to see that the TR is finally getting the respect that it is richly entitled too.

Joe, I am in the market for a countach as well. It is a very thinly traded market. It takes time to find an excellent example. I started a garage restoration project that I have yet to finish. I hope to add the Countach within the next year.

My TR is not for sale but I love seeing the car get the respect that she deserves.
i have a Countach and a TR and in my opinion they should be valued equally. The TR is a much better car that the countach. Better build quality and more refined, but the Countach has the ultimate fan club hence the value.

My wife fails to believe that the Countach is worth so much more.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:26 PM
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Anyone have the build numbers for the US...

1)single mirror TRs
2)Double mirror TRS
3)512 Tr

?????
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Anyone have the build numbers for the US...

1)single mirror TRs
2)Double mirror TRS
3)512 Tr

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The only number I have heard is 719 single mirror TRs , I would assume that is world wide, but have never been able to confirm the actual number.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:22 PM
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Anyone have the build numbers for the US...

1)single mirror TRs
2)Double mirror TRS
3)512 Tr

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Here is what I have found:

According to http://www.red-headed.com/index2.html, in 1985 there were 568 built and in 1986 819 built worldwide.

Mirrors
The early Testarossas had a single, high mirror and a 'pin' button in the interior (so, only meant for one mirror). After a certain law regarding mirrors was changed in 1985, the Testarossas were fitted with double, low mirrors and a 'round' button in the interior.

The introduction of double low mirrors was at s/n 67487 for US versions and at s/n 67079 for Euro versions.

Production numbers,

Testarossa
Production started: 1984.
Production ended: 1991.
Total production: 7,177, 438 RHD.
First serial number: 52979(?).
Last serial number: 91923.

512 TR
Production started: 1991.
Production ended: 1994.
Total production: 2,280, 50 RHD (38 ABS).
First serial number: 89100.
Last serial number: 99743.

F512 M
Production started: 1994.
Production ended: 1994.
Total production: 500, 41 RHD.
First serial number: 99664(?) / 99744, 1/75.
Last serial number: 99993(?) / 99774, 75/75.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:01 PM
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To better understand the price spread, it would be interesting, though challenging, to split TRs into single mirror, dual mirror until 88.5, then 88.5-91.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:03 AM
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i have a Countach and a TR and in my opinion they should be valued equally. The TR is a much better car that the countach. Better build quality and more refined, but the Countach has the ultimate fan club hence the value.
I am in the same boat and totally agree. Compare the two and the Countach is a piece of junk compared to the TR. I have been using the Countach alot lately. I just pulled my TR out after months of inactivity. My first reaction was WOW, this is really a great car. Easy to drive, just as fast, I can see who is around me, Sounds sweeter (with the help of X-ost), better build quality etc. Countach does win in the stun factor. It is the most stunning piece of rolling art ever created! Love them both
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Glad to see the TR is finally getting more attention. I have always felt that eventually (within 5-10 years) the TR values would go up significantly. Many Ferrari's get mistaken for other cars, but nobody mistakes the TR for anything other than a Ferrari
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TR's are fantastic cars...my recent acqusition of a carbed BB has only served to reinforce that for me.

the BB is a wonderful car...and the TR is exactly what we come to expect from Ferrari, an evolution of the car that preceeded it...in every way.
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Glad to see the TR is finally getting more attention. I have always felt that eventually (within 5-10 years) the TR values would go up significantly. Many Ferrari's get mistaken for other cars, but nobody mistakes the TR for anything other than a Ferrari
I love it... +1
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