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Might be silly but I need to know!

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by TestaLA, Jun 14, 2012.

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  1. TestaLA

    TestaLA Karting

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    Do you guys think this fire extinguisher is good for my Testarossa?

    Two things that concern me is the capacity (this one is 2.5lbs rather than the smaller 1lb one) and if its a clean enough agent for use in the engine bay. I heard about Halon but its hard to find and this says "chemical free" so I figure its a good choice. I can't imagine ever really needing to use this but if I do I want to make sure its the right choice.
    Thoughts?


    http://www.jegs.com/i/H3R-Performance/528/MX250R/10002/-1?parentProductId=
     
  2. jrbaldwin

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  3. ago car nut

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    Fire chief told me a 2.5 lb will barely do the job. He said the 1 lb is almost worthless on an engine fire.



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  4. jrbaldwin

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    I carry two 2.5 lbs fire extinguishers in both my sports cars as they are easier to store than one 5 lbs fire extinguisher. It gives me a chance of keeping a small fire from becoming a big fire. If it is already a big fire only a large size AFFF fire extinguisher or fire hose will put it out, so stand clear and let in burn. I also carry two 2.5 lbs fire extinguishers in my aluminum fish boat.

    Jim
     
  5. Red Head Seeker

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    On a related subject TestLA.....Have you upgraded ALL your fuel lines?!.....Mark
     
  6. TestaLA

    TestaLA Karting

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    Hmm...I am not sure if they were. It may have been addressed by a previous owner(doubt it was in my 30K service unless its common to replace). I am taking the car in tomorrow to fix a window issue and address a funny "noise" I dont think is normal, I will ask them to check and let me know if it needs replacing.
     
  7. kopiokosong

    kopiokosong Formula 3

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    i have halon in my car but i was told in event of an engine fire, the extinguisher is more to put out flames on occupants rather than the car itself !
     
  8. Red Head Seeker

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    Dave Helms makes an "updated fuel line kit"...I believe the new lines are orange colored.....I know there have been posts regarding the updated fuel lines, might want to do a search.....Mark
     
  9. TestaLA

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    I'm gonna resurrect this thread and ask

    https://www.amazon.com/Amerex-B385TS-2-5lb-Halotron-Extinguisher/dp/B00CMUMW5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1486584180&sr=8-3&keywords=halon+fire+extinguisher

    https://www.amazon.com/Extinguisher-Bracket-Universal-Design-Vehicles/dp/B015G3QXMY/ref=pd_sim_328_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JAPCWCRVH4H3J7Z851J3

    You think this is a good combo for a Testarossa?

    Fire extinguisher should leave no residue and the bracket seems to take up little space. I was thinking this bracket or find one for behind the seats but I don't want to drill any holes etc...
     
  10. vincenzo

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  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Good insurance and some marshmallows.

    Let it burn.
     
  12. Alden

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    I had to bail out of Lotus that was on fire years ago. Seconds turn to hours when fire is that close to you and your fuel tanks.

    I installed one of these in the engine compartment, not to save the car, but to give me a few more seconds to get the h**l out!

    https://www.amazon.com/BlazeCut-Automatic-Suppression-Automotive-Extinguisher/dp/B00D7M3E7O

    Painted it flat black and it is not that visible. Easy to install with zip ties and removable for service access too.

    I have a Halotron unit behind the drivers seat too. No residue on either extinguisher, but as Brian said, if you are well insured, just get out, shed a tear or two and let it burn, the car will seldom be salvageable.
    Alden
     
  13. Rifledriver

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    Even if it is salvageable I want no part. I have been involved in quite a few burn repairs and it was a non stop battle with the insurance co. Guess who in the end comes out the loser in that one?

    Let it burn.
     
  14. Melvok

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    Let it burn ..... NO one is going to thank you if you saved a seat or ...
     
  15. TestaLA

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    Haltron Vs Co2? Same thing basically?
     
  16. turbo-joe

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    I don´t know if haltron is the same like halon?
    in europe halon is not legal anymore since a while. but it was the best. I have in my car a CO2 system with 6 nozzles in the engine compartement, to be activated from the driver seat. and an additional knob to start the system. but I can not close and open the system when it once has been started all of the reservoir goes out - hopefully it should be enaugh??

    until now I not had to used the system :) :)
     
  17. AClark

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    What a story!

    I agree with your last point.... get out FIRST ... call 911

    Take some photos.

    Oh and make sure you're always well insured

    Andy
     
  18. Rifledriver

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    Since car fires are so much more environmentally sound than using an extinguisher that actually works.

    A very good example of environmentalisim run amok. No sense in applying the old smell test before passing stupid laws....nope...uh uh.
     
  19. brian.s

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    This ^^^^^^.
     
  20. TestaLA

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  21. curtisc63

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    It is not about wanting to let your Ferrari burn. It is about preservation of health/life.

    We had a local firefighter have his car (Lambo) go up in flames while driving - theory is a broken fuel line. By the time he stopped and got himself and his passenger out of the car there was NO chance of saving it. Since and because of that incident and after talking with him, I removed the fire extinguisher from the interior of my TR. Just to remove the temptation and possibly end up dead or in months of rehab in a burn clinic.

    I do still carry it in the frunk but that is in case of an emergency that may happen elsewhere and could possibly help buy some time in getting someone help.
     
  22. TestaLA

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    Nope not always

    https://youtu.be/Cy_itaW9C1A

    Watch this video. Skip to 40secs in. A fire extinguisher would work.
    FYI I don't rev like a ****** at traffic lights but I don't think the punishment fits the crime here
     
  23. ago car nut

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    Catch fire that easy from backfire???
     
  24. turbo-joe

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    normaly not

    but may be of several accelerations there comes unburned fuel out of the exhaust and those fuel gases getting to fire. and when there is also some material what can burn then this will get to fire soon.
    but this case here at youtube is very rare and I never have seen this
     
  25. TestaLA

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    https://youtu.be/R2Swlt6jF7Y

    I can do this all day long...

    I'm not arguing on what is causing it but a fire extinguisher in an easy reachable posting would be great to have if you were this guy
     

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