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Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by lear60man, Aug 18, 2014.

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  1. lear60man

    lear60man Formula 3

    May 29, 2004
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    Walk me through this process and fill in the gaps:

    -Remove airbox, muffler and bell housing.
    -Remove clutch, pressure plate, send out to be resurfaced and relined (clutchmaster.com Kevlar)
    -Order new throw out bearing and various O rings and spline alignment tool.
    -Take pictures of the removal process to document proper reassembly.
    -Bleed clutch fluid and replace.
    -replace with resurfaced / relined parts.

    What am I missing? Is it this straight forward? I read something here about shims? ect.

    Its a 1990 TR.

    Thanks!

    Christian
     
  2. okiedude

    okiedude Formula 3

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    It is my understanding that if you use the OEM AP clutch you don't need shims(?), but that will cost more than a relined disc. and reman pressure plate. I was able to lay my hands on the AP setup for a very reasonable price.
    I just ordered the release bearing and random o-rings from Eurospares, about $250 IIRC and they had it here in three days.
    I ordered the following parts from ES- #10x3, 15, 21, 22, 25, 26, 28, 46, 48x2 and 50. Not sure you need 48, but they are cheap. The two parts they did not have were seal 24(x2), and spring 27x(2) on their diagram. I was able to get those from Ricambi. Don't know that you need the springs, but I'm in there and it will never be easier.
    http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partTable.asp?M=1&Mo=624&A=1&B=35142&S=
    I hope to do this in the next 30 days, will try and document the procedure.
     
  3. tr512

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    If i remember its been a few years since i did mine.but i think i had to remove the rear bumper.
     
  4. godabitibi

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    I just bought a new AP from Competizione and sports cars for a VERY good price. A new AP comes with the shims proper for it. For a refaced clutch the procedure to measure it is all in the shop manual.
     
  5. okiedude

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    Richard hooked me up too, he must be out of them now-LOL! He said he had two on the shelf.
     
  6. godabitibi

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    When I bought mine he said he thought he had one. I got it yesterday.
     
  7. Melvok

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    #7 Melvok, Aug 19, 2014
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    Do NOT forget the grinding/flattening or how the heck that is called of the FLYWHEEL ...

    See my post of date 02-14-2012, 04:05 PM in the gearbox thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/boxers-tr-m/343161-512tr-gearbox-problem-4.html
     
  8. godabitibi

    godabitibi F1 Veteran
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    I was told to use Porsche Optimoly clutch shaft grease. Do any of you use something else on the shaft.
     
  9. okiedude

    okiedude Formula 3

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    I got mine about 2 weeks ago. Richard has some interesting parts hidden on the shelf.
    Too bad we don't all live closer, we could have a clutch party. Maybe we could Skype it?-LOL.
     
  10. godabitibi

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    Yes Richard has good prices too. I got my Newman diff from him too.

    A clutch party with bet on who's finish first. And the one who wins have to help the other ;-)
     
  11. lear60man

    lear60man Formula 3

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    Yes to the clutch party and the sorts. I need to start getting parts together so that my down time is minimal.
     
  12. okiedude

    okiedude Formula 3

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    I know I can do a clutch in my Subaru in about 2 hours. But I've done that a few times. Something tells me this will take a bit longer.
     
  13. okiedude

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    #13 okiedude, Aug 20, 2014
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    Gee, we've cleaned him out on that too! I bought one with the car, his shop is fantastic and he and Fernando are great guys. Knowing my car belonged to Richards father was certainly reassuring.
     
  14. lear60man

    lear60man Formula 3

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    If I do the resurfacing route, its a 5-6 day turn around including shipping time. Witch is an eternity in my world. haha.
     
  15. vincenzo

    vincenzo F1 Rookie

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    Note that others have had pin problems when they sent them out to be resurfaced. If it is not warped or excessively blued, you might want to do a light scrub while it is on the car.

    Rgds,
    Vincenzo
     
  16. okiedude

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    I've done a number of flywheels (not Ferrari) using a DA sander with an 80 grit pad on it. It essentially gives the surface a good scuff but doesn't remove any significant material.
     
  17. Melvok

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    Take that flywheel to a proper shop; will cost less than $ 100 imo.. :) .
     
  18. okiedude

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    Claude, did you use the Optimoly? Sounds like it is uber expensive. I found this thread over on Pelican, the Porsche guys are saying Permatex Copper Anti-Sieze is a good equivalent? Where on the "shaft" did you apply it? :)
     
  19. godabitibi

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    Richard told me NOT to use anti-sieze but I don't know why. I personnally never grease clutch shafts. I prefer them very clean and dry. This time I was told to apply a very light coat of grease on the spline just so the surface doesn't rust when in storage.
     
  20. turbo-joe

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    this I always did and do since I work on cars
     
  21. okiedude

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    Sounds good.
     
  22. Ingenere

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    It has been a while since I did mine, but it was very straight forward...... and actually quite easy and accessible. I used OEM parts.
     
  23. lear60man

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    Let the questions begin...

    How thick should the Kevlar clutch material be after being relined?
     
  24. tbakowsky

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    Go to Ferraridatabase .com and down load the manual. All the specs are there.
     

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