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F 512 M or 512 TR legit top speed?

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  1. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    Hi all, question.

    I know Ferrari says the top speed of the F512M is 196, and the 512 TR is 195. Have any magazines over the years tested either of these cars to verify? All I have found is an Autocar test of an F512M that was done at Millbrook's bowl that hit 175 (they said on flat ground top speed would be higher and the car needed more revs to hit the claimed 196?).

    Anybody have info?
     
  2. toffee

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    Anyone noticeable handling different between 512TR and TR? How did that 3" lower center of gravity affect cornering?
     
  3. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    Not sure. This thread is about the top speed of the F 512 M and 512 TR, not the Testarossa...
     
  4. dinos

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    Hello,
    The 512TR was tested by quattroruote ( Aprile 1993 ) and managed a top speed of 315.8 km ( 196.2 mph ) at 7370 rpm.
    Other interesting figures from the test is:
    0-100 km 4.51 !
    0-200 km 14.15
    1/4 12.36
    1 km 22.26
    Mile 30.85

    It was a comparison test with the Diablo vt and the 512TR did very well ! ( was faster that the diablo up to 130 km and very near up to 160 km.
    Actually up to 220 km the 512TR time was 17.29 and the diablo 16.43 !! that is quite impressive if you consider that the diablo has 492 hp and the 512TR 428 hp but the diablo weights also 110 kg more !

    After reading this numbers for the 512TR I was impressed !!

    Regards
     
  5. SSNISTR

    SSNISTR F1 Veteran

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    I always find it odd how their numbers are always so much better then everyone elses. Those acceleration numbers for example...12.3 1/4 mile, best I have seen besides that for a 512 TR was 13.0 or 12.9. The same car that runs a 13.0/12.9 does not run 12.3, that is a huge difference. Just like thier F12 test, which was a 10.6. Best besides that I've seen was 11.0...their testing procedures must be abnormal IMO...
     
  6. Melvok

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    #6 Melvok, Nov 13, 2014
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    I can only show you what we achieved in Germany on the Autobahn in our 512TR on a beautiful quite day ... 312 KM/h on GPS ... quite fast I can tell you ... :)
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  7. REALZEUS

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    Au contraire, their testing is immaculate. They possess a great testing facility with super grippy tarmac though.
     
  8. SSNISTR

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    Unless there is lots and lots of wheelspin, a car does not go from 13.0 to 12.3. That is HUGE, and I have been drag racing for 20 years...gains like that take a lot.
     
  9. dinos

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    I don't know if the Autocar test was performed in unfavorable conditions ( wet road , tyres condition etc.) but the 12.9 sec of road and track is a for a USA spec car ( + 79 kilos or 200 lbs more and - 7 hp less than a Euro car )
     
  10. JohnAbrams

    JohnAbrams Karting

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    200 pounds and 7 hp is maybe .2 tenths under similar conditions. Plus, as the OP said, the F12 test is strangley quicker then everyone elses. Maybe it's not a full 1/4 mile and they don't even know it?
     
  11. ross

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    if i recall the r&t test yielded a 0-60 mph time of 4.7 seconds, and a quarter mile in 12.7 at 112mph. but it has been a while since i saw that issue, so i may be wrong.

    i can tell you that i have had my own 512tr with the speedo pegged on the right, but i was a little too preoccupied to measure it on any other type of device. btw, it was solid as a vault. the wind noise was high though. love that car.
     
  12. jlonmark

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    Not to hijack the thread, I think the top speed on a regular Tr was 171 although the speedo said 200. It makes sense that the 512 would be in the 190 neighborhood


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  13. tbakowsky

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    Always remember. Magazines don't have to pay for repairs on test cars provided by the factory.

    I'm quite sure none of you would subject your personal cars to the abuse theses cars took to get those numbers. Dumping the clutch at 4-5k rpm is not a good idea. Sure it will turn those numbers but only a couple of times before big money goes out the window.

    It's all window dressing.
     
  14. turbo-joe

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    right ! ! !
    and never believe a statistic that you have not written yourself
     
  15. DreamCarrera

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    171?!?! R&T has obtained 180+ mph with the early model Testarossas many times...you may want to double check your figures(i.e. not post b.s. here).
     
  16. SSNISTR

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    Top speed has nothing to do with dumping a clutch though...

    Which was my original question, this thread just got a little shall we say, off track.
     
  17. Melvok

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    Is it off track ?
     
  18. SSNISTR

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    Yes, topic was top speed, but acceleration times came to be a part of it. I am guilty of it too...
     
  19. Melvok

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    Right Ryan !

    Is it (maybe) interesting to hear from others IF they ever drove topspeed ? :) And how fast was that ?
     
  20. doubleclutch

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    I was thinking the exact same thing. Numerous burnouts to heat up the tires will also add to better 1/4 times, but I believe few owners are willing to subject their collective cars to such extreme abuse for the benefit of shaving 1/10ths off a 1/4 time.
    I wish they had done a rolling start time/s, plus air temperature & relative humidity play a large part in any speed times.
     

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